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Another way to be more private is to only federate upvote/downvote count, instead of the detail of the upvote/downvote. This is not only lighter but more private. When the count needs to be updated just broadcast the new upvote count.
But I see why they want to do it the current way, as it is more aligned with activitypub protocol, and allow other platform like mastodon to participate without problems.
I cannot think of much problem in implementing a "hidden upvote system" in activitypub. Basically, it will work like this:
Wouldn't it be easy to lie though? Instance B could report 1000 upvotes to Instance C and Instance C would have no way of verifying that. An instance could boost its own numbers pretty easily, pushing agendas to the front page.
The transparency allows for accountability. It would be pretty easy to detect an instance making up user upvotes versus a "just trust this number" system.
It would be equally as easy to lie either way. Instead of reporting 1000 anonymous upvotes, report 1000 fake upvotes from fake users or users who didn't actually upvote. Any instance that gets caught abusing the protocol would get blocked pretty quickly though. Even though it's theoretically possible, I've never seen it happen.
A instance can always generate bunch of fake user and use them to upvote their own stuff. With LLM I would imagine it would be trivial to make them sounds semi-human.
Unless fediverse implements some sort of smart contract system using proof of work/stake system, i don't really see much way to fix faking upvote. Even so, it is hard to make the implementation correct, and probably abusable (for example, most user only use a phone with 128G of storage, people can just buy couple 4TB drive and pretend each of them are 40 real users).