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[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 64 points 8 months ago

Huh. I would have bet Lemmygrad would be up there somewehre.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 60 points 8 months ago

Places like Lemmygrad and Hexbear are actually pretty benign. They're just on the verge of being acceptable to people so they make a lot of noise and cause a lot of drama but in terms of the actual bad actors... well, as you can see, they don't even rate.

[-] neidu@feddit.nl 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Agreed. While I tend to disagree with most of the viewpoints coming from lemmygrad, at least the content is posted with benign intent. The room might stink, but nobody intentionally shat on the floor.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 5 points 8 months ago

The room might stink, but nobody intentionally shat on the floor.

I like this figure of speech a lot, stealing it ๐Ÿ˜

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

Meh, I don't really find the open mass murder fetish benign at all. I don't care what color your fash is, it's still abhorrent.

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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 54 points 8 months ago

I think this highlights what people think when they hear "defederating" vs its actual purpose. It's controversial when it's between serious instances that people actually use but with wildly incompatible opinions, but there's very few objections when it's blocking CSAM!

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Okay, yeah this was my thought as I wrote this, I won't deny it. But to be fair, LemmyGrad does more than just to be controversial. They provoke and brigade and justify terrible Crimes against Humanity. And I might bet that some of the Stuff they say could even be illegal here in Germany.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 14 points 8 months ago

I imagine most of the big servers have them blocked but it's probably the individual servers that make up the majority of the numbers. If you're self-hosting then you can just ignore instances you don't like and be relatively confident they won't hassle you. The other kind though, probably want to preempt them!

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

It is trivially easy to find examples of them wanting to nuke the US or kill all liberals or defending Soviet and Chinese pogroms, etc. I don't understand how that's really any different from saying "kill all Jews" or advocating for slavery tbh. As far as I can tell, the line exists because edgy redfash are mostly marginalized so nobody takes them seriously?

[-] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

I'd imaging its fur and anime, not CSAM.

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fur, anime, and CSAM groups have a not so insignificant overlap of members sometimes, sadly.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 8 months ago

Judging from some of the other comments in this thread I'm not so sure

[-] deleted@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago

I think lemmygrad isnโ€™t that bad considering pedo.school is halfway through the list.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

True, but LemmyGrad can be wild too. I met one who claimed being Homosexual is imperialistic. https://lemmy.world/post/4494303

[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 48 points 8 months ago

Ah yes the urge to kiss boys and conquer territory

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 12 points 8 months ago

Conquer that ass booiiiii

[-] Arelin@lemmy.zip 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Isn't that a .world user? Lemmygrad doesn't allow homophobes as a rule. Probably why they couldn't register on that instance.

Being gay and imperialist is a hilarious thought though lol

[-] Justas@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

When you are a queen but want to be THE Queen.

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

Lemmygrad and Hexbear most definitely do not tolerate homophobia, though, so I don't think that user would've lasted long there if they were a lemmygrad user.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

I mean that's a very wacky and stupid opinion but go on any one of those servers in that list and you'll probably see much, much worse things being claimed about gay people and not just by one person.

[-] Arelin@lemmy.zip 17 points 8 months ago

I bet a large part of the Fediverse are Communist/Socialist too, or have similar ideas. Lemmy's devs are, after all.

I mean, the whole thing is based on the idea of being free to use for everyone.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

I see your Point. I see myself also as rather left. But the People over at Lemmygrad are not really left imo. They are authoritarian, for sure. But left? I don't know. I don't want to claim to be the sole "Incarnation of leftism" it's just that many of my views and beliefs are the opposite of theirs.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

The spectrum is more than left and right, I know political compass memes on Reddit got taken over by nazis but there is legitimately a whole compass. Stalin is somewhat center left, nudist hippie communes are lower left corner

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

There is, for better or worse, authoritarianism on the left. "You will be fed and given a place to stay and personal safety... or else!" Even in its more benign forms (ex Bolshevism) it's kinda bad imo. When it gets extreme it gets... well... being an English speaker i'm sure you've heard all about it.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Not really, but I'm actually not a native English speaker tho ๐Ÿ˜…

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[-] kpw@kbin.social 12 points 8 months ago

Probably they don't disturb the large number of Mastodon instances.

[-] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

Lemmy is not able to disturb Mastodon as much as other microblogging instances.

[-] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago

Nobody on a Lemmy instance is able to follow accounts (like on Mastodon or /kbin). Thus, Lemmy will not fetch anything from Mastodon unless written specifically to a threadiverse community (and the community being CCed). Because of this, Lemmy instance are less harmful, than (potentially) any microblogging server (be it Mastodon, Pleroma, Soapbox, *key, etc.)

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