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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

Israel has gone from apartheid to genocide, within living memory (there are very few left alive, but still living memory) of the genocide the founders of Israel went through themselves.

Israel has been genocidal from the start. It's just faster now; in 1949 there was the Nakba and then there was the whole settlement business.

[-] hAhAhNKoReAn@fanaticus.social -5 points 9 months ago

There's a bit of comment in your anti semitism

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

You could actually state where I'm wrong (hint: I only stated proven historical facts).

[-] cozz33@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Ya got the date wrong. Nakba happened in 1948 when multiple Arabic nations declared war on Israel after they announced their independence.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago

Setting aside the legitimacy of Israel as a state, why does that mean they get to ethnically cleanse half the Palestinian population?

[-] cozz33@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Where in my comment did I say that lol

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago

That's the implication, at least. Because "they declared war first so they deserved it" is a popular position among Zionists.

If that's not what you meant, then while the war was declared in 1948, the Nakba started in earnest when Israel started beating back the Arab states in 1949.

[-] cozz33@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

If you declare war and lose, you can’t just go “lol oopsie we didn’t really mean it” and expect nothing to happen. When has the loser in any war not experienced repercussions?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago

Usually we expect the civilians not to get ethnically cleansed, but oh well.

[-] cozz33@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

So what would have happened if the Arab nations had won? Do you not see the irony here? The Jews paid for the land legally before declaring their independence. This is fact I can back it up with evidence. Muslim rulers were scared of the possibility of a majority Jewish nation because of how horrible Jews were treated under muslim rule. I can provide a list of all the massacres and pogroms committed against Jews in muslim countries throughout history. The list is staggering. Jews were classified as dhimmi under muslim rule and had to pay an extortion tax as well as being barred from using several of their own holy sites. You can’t attempt an ethnic cleansing on a people and then when it fails cry “ethnic cleansing!” when they return the same behavior they’ve been dealing with for 1000s of years.

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