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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by fosforus@sopuli.xyz to c/world@lemmy.world

As a Finn I say this is fine. Every military resource that is tied down and not raping and destroying Ukraine is net positive.

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[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Getting NATO directly involved will not end but will rather escalate the conflict.

You can't win a war, let alone against a nuclear state. This wouldn't end well.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Is there any alternative? Ukraine can't fight forever, and Russia won't stop.

Poland, Finland, Germany and others are also no nuclear States. Will the threat of nuclear retaliation and counter-attack from their allies really stop Russia, or will they just wait a couple of years and then try this shit again with other states? Or do everyone needs to gearup again? I have no Idea anymore.

[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

There is about 0 real solutions here, mostly just keeping war of attrition, which slowly drains Russian economy without reasonably allowing it to escalate. It is super bloody though, and it is not an option to choose willingly for either side.

The only thing dumber than NATO doing direct strikes on Russia is Russia doing direct strikes on NATO. This is why Ukraine not joining NATO is such a big talking point in negotiations. If Ukraine goes NATO, Russia won't be able to exert any military control over it anymore.

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