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You are toxic and share the same harassing behaviour of reddit atheists
You think you can bully and harass users online and people who have spiritual beliefs with your holier-than-thou attitude
If you think I will let the bullying and harrasment slide then you are wrong
I have watched you and users similar to you harass and bully users on reddit for years and even go as far as to brigading subreddits for spiritual communities to harass and bully the users there, the same behaviour came over here to lemmy
You are entitled to your own beleifs but to harrass and bully users online who do not share the same beliefs as you is not okay
The spiritual community doesn't need your scientific validation to practice spirituality
You use the word "nonsense" in a derogatory way
This is the exact behaviour of reddit atheists, beeliving they get w free pass to bully and harass people online who don't fit into their hive mind
And you share the typical misonformed view of spiritual communities amd spiritual beliefs and I don't know of you are genuinely misonformed or are intentionally misinforming people about spiritual communities and spiritual beleifs as another tactic to bully and harass
No you're just being derogatory by falsely associating the spiritual community with those anti-vax idiots and you are using the phrase "critical thinking skills" as an insult and not with its actual meaning
No thanks. I've wasted enough time on nonsense today.
You have a star trek inspired profile but ignore the ethos of startrek set out by Gene Roddenberry
You mean the ethos that religion and spirituality wouldn't exist in the future? That one? The one where TNG goes out of its way time and time again to demonstrate that people who hold religious and spiritual beliefs end up stuck in the dark ages? The one where they have a Prime Directive to specifically prohibit the building of religion around their tech because Starfleet and the Federation recognize that religion causes extreme upheval and sets back their technological progress because they're obsessed with nonsense? That one? That ethos? The one where it also explicitly says that you should not respect someone's beliefs if those beliefs are harmful to others or promote dangerous thinking because then it curtails the rights of others? Where if the beliefs cause pain to individuals they're not worth a second thought? That one? That ethos? The one made by Gene Roddenberry? That Gene Roddenberry who repeatedly publicly said he was a secular humanist? That Gene? The secular one?
Star Trek backs me up. But of course you wouldn't know that because you're just desperately grabbing at some gotcha because you cannot find a single leg to stand on to defend your disgusting and harmful beliefs. Because there is no defense. Because they are disgusting. And harmful.
Have fun with that. I'm done giving attention to the likes of toxic spiritualists like you who try to spray their venom under the guise of being enlightened.
This is also your own interpretation of star trek that backs you up
Additionally it was specifically picard in some seasons that held this stance
The prime directive's goal is to stop interference with players and lifeforms natural development pre-warp, its purpose is not what you state
Your comment also lacks Additional context and nuance which I beleive is intentional to frame your comment in a specific way, it's like you are looking at specifoc parts of trek that fit what you want to state with your comment comment are surgically slicing those parts out without context and nuance and adapting them for your comment
Don't care. Didn't read. See previous comment.
I'm going to block you now. You don't have anything to say that is worth my time.
No I'm talking about discrimination
Genes ethos includes not discriminating against someone for their differences
Here you are discriminating against people based on spiritual beleifs with prejudice and misinformed stereotypes and misinformed beleifs about people with spiritual beleifs
Do you think spiritual people don't go to see the doctor when they are sick, are you that misinformed
Prejudice holds us back as a society, you cannot use prejudice in the name of equality as that is hypocritical
And I have watched through TNG
It wasn't firmly locked in its stances and what would change from season to season and maybe even episode to episode
You cannot truely support equality if you use prejudice to put others down
Don't care. Didn't read. See previous comment.
"A belief system that blames its adherents for anything bad that happens to them is kind of a toxic belief system."
"Yeah well you're just mean. Stop bullying me."
While i agree that the person you're replying to has a bit of a brash and elitist tone, they do have a point with line item #3 as they perfectly explained trying to stop victim blaming
Sure, practice whatever spiritually you'd like (as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else). I'm honestly glad it makes people happier overall. Please keep on doing it if you like it and it makes you happy (and doesn't hurt or ridicule anyone else or their beliefs).
Just don't bring science into it. So many of us have put so much time and effort into discovering how things work and why they happen. All more or less concrete evidence that can be debated, but is able to be observed and reproduced.
They're two totally different things. I just wish people would understand that.
For the record, I was raised religious. But since devoting so much of my life to science, I have very different views.
I'm not bringing science into it, I'm just tired of people using it as an excuse to discriminate against people who practice spirituality
Stamets looks to be discriminating against people whether they realise it or not, they get overly rude and defensive when people defend spiritual practices, and stamets appears to hold misinformed views about spiritual people and spiritual practices
I do admit my earlier comments responding to stamets where more emotionally fuled but that was because I hate seeing people discriminate against people who practice spiritual people like they think it's okay not to view them as equal and discriminate against them because they practice spirituality
I saw it happen for years on reddit and I guess that stored a lot of emotional fuel that needed to be let out
Spiritual beliefs aren't harmful, and aren't harmful to others
It's the antivaxers, medical health deniers, and bigots who falsely claim to be spiritual or use spirituality as an excuse to commit these activities that are harmful