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[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago

I feel like his answer was shaped by the context of the conversation but yeah I have also come to expect people to not respect the need to bolster industrial and technological capabilites. I don't know anything about Sison so not talking him specifically.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago

This is my main problem with global south leftists and self-proclaimed communists, production is largely ignored. The right wing has managed to use this against the left, it is a common talking point throughout latin america that the "right is production and left is parasitism" and rarely does the left confront this narrative.

[-] urshanabi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

That's a good point, do you know how one might phrase or introduce it? I feel like just using the word 'economy' makes people think of something nebulous (it's the invisible hand of the free market, don't ya know? how does it work? in mYsTeRiOuS wAyS) and the vocabulary I'd use to try to explain or express what the productive forces are also kinda seems out of place.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I always throw a "historical and dialectical materialism" by stalin recommendation. There is a section that clearly explains why production is the chief determinant force in development, what are the productive forces (tools+people) and what are the relations of production.

[-] urshanabi@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

honestly super impressed with stalin's writing in general, kinda unbelievable that someone could be so good at as many things. i've met savant's and their fantastical ability is typically restricted to a narrow domain, for some it's almost as if they don't have any special ability, and they could likely choose an area and excel at it. maybe not the absolute best, and still really really good.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

It is not surprising at all that there was a need for a gigantic campaign to discredit him, his works and style of writing streamlined marxism and are very important to read for people starting this journey.

IMO Historical and dialectical materialism has to be one of the first recommendations to newbies.

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