125
Looking for something new to read after The Expanse
(lemmy.world)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 27 Dec 2023
125 points (97.7% liked)
Books
10265 readers
11 users here now
Book reader community.
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
I'm on book 6 of the Expanse and love it! My suggestions:
The Culture series - Iain M Banks. Space opera that gave us luxury gay space communism. You can pick up any book as a starting point - they're set in the same universe spanning millennia and have very little interconnection. Explores themes of humanity in an AI world (choice, war, deceit, love, etc)
Revelation Space series - Alastair Reynolds. Closest in terms of style and sweeping scope to The Expanse. Same dry humour that can get a bit much at times.
Three Body Problem trilogy - Liu Cixin. Leans a lot heavier into the Science of sci-fi and can be very dense, but one of my favourite trilogies. What happens when you finally get a signal back from space?
Monk & Robot series (novellas) - Becky Chambers. Pure hope punk and absolutely delightful (without any of the incredibly distateful and harmful tropes found in Midnight Library). There are only two out so far, and you'll be able to read them in a day. Of all of the recommendations I've listed, I implore you to read this one.
I second Monk & Robot. In fact, a lot of Becky Chambers books are good. Too much of the sci-fi genre is doom and gloom nowadays.
To Be Taught, if Fortunate (novellas) - Becky Chambers
The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet (trilogy) - Beck Chambers
Right!?! I even found my own writing spiraling into "and everybody dies" endings recently, so Becky Chambers was a breath of fresh air!
Not patronising, not naive, but utterly hopeful.
Have you tried looking into the solarpunk genre? I am still looking for a novel that combines concepts of cosmic horror and solarpunk into some complicated jumble of lovecraftian goodness that isn't about evil gods from the stars, in fact i am writing a novel for myself that fits what i am looking for in this "genre" i am hoping to find someday.
Any authors or books you would recommend in the genre?
:( Unfortunately no, I am actually still pretty new to solarpunk, so far i just kind of read whatever i can get my hands on. I mostly have read a bunch of random short story compilations, i had two solarpunk books that had collections of various short solarpunk stories. I am also currently on a cosmic horror tangent, and solarpunk doesn't really scratch that itch as much personally, but i do enjoy it. It also seems there arent many writers of solarpunk fiction as well. If i keep this account for very long, and i come across anything i found really interest and i manage to remember this post i'll try to come back and reply again with some suggestions :3
Also recommend Three body problem, the dark forest, and death's end by Cixin Liu. It's the only kind of sci fi i want anymore. But the expanse show was interesting so i've wanted to read the expanse books as well. Cixin Liu's trilogy was amazing, it's the only book i've read where science is terrifying and every single theory they bring up makes all of my bodie's hairs stand on end constantly as i realize terrifying implications of information that previously seemed innocuous. I LOVED the books soo much, and i was very happy to for the first time, read a book that is based in chinese culture, since i had no experience or knowledge really of chinese culture, and i very much enjoy exploring new things, it was one of my favorite parts. Also the other part is i am a huge fan of lovecraftian stories. And this feels like a new, modern take on lovecraft. A take on it that is more realistic to the reality we live in, but at the same time, Cixin Liu seems to not be afraid to delve deep into the fiction aspects of science fiction just to pull out ideas that while not exactly true in real life, work as really good metaphors for similar ideas like our lack of understanding in science, which the new James-webb telescope is already providing many new questions about humanities understandings of the cosmos.
i would give it 3 out of 3 stars if one was not hit by a near light speed object. (if you've read the trilogy you'll probably understand this reference.)
I gravitate toward dark and depressing media so much. I could probably stand to fit more hopeful stories into my life so I'll check out Monk & Robot. Thanks!
Oh come on. The Three Body Problem is absolute trash. I'm tired of pretending the Emperor's clothes are beautiful. I slogged through the first book as a kind of challenge to myself and regret it. I want those hours of my life back.
It's only redeeming aspects are the brief discussion of the Chinese cultural revolution.
Go look at the negative reviews of it on goodreads. I agree with all of them.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it. I, personally, did (as did many, many other people). I thought the second book in particular was fantastic. I enjoy a lot of Chinese SFF, but I do get that it isn't for everyone.
Maybe phrasing an opinion as a fact, and then backing it up with other people's opinions, isn't the best way to dissuade someone from their own opinion
EDIT: had to go back and check my original comment. I do mention that it is a bit of a slog to read. However, the ideas and presentation were worth it for me.
We're talking about a work of fiction. Opinion is all you're going to get.
I do think that more science fiction should be translated, and I applaud the fact that it's been done. And as I said, I appreciated the parts about the cultural revolution, but the characters and ideas are stiff and lifeless with little motivation.
And as for many, many people liking it, you can say that about a lot of things that are objectively bad.
I guess I'll back-peddle to "It wasnt for me."
I get what you're saying, though I can't recommend Ender's Game because your money goes to supporting gay conversion therapy. Plus, once you get into the second book, the similarities with Ender's Game becomes a lot more dubious, and by the third book disappears entirely.
However, "Opinion is all you’re going to get" and "objectively bad" is kinda oxymoronic 😉 Are there objectively bad books? God yes, I have read enough hopeful author's in my life to say that basic cause & effect or the notion of "story" as something apart from "series of events" are not always understood. However, I think you're right that this is a case of opinions based on style.
TBP (the trilogy, not just the first book) is a lot more to do with societal responsibility than a single hero (though individual failings are also a theme, though usually in how they impact society/humanity as a whole). It focuses on our place in the universe from a cultural point of view starkly different to the rugged individualism of the West (most Chinese SFF doesn't have a single protagonist), and TBP requires an enjoyment of playing with theoretical physics and geopolitics that is rather different from how they are used in contemporary Western sci-fi. So I 100% get it.
It definitely isn't for everyone, and Chinese fiction in particular can cause a lot of headaches because of this difference in how the world is perceived between Western and Eastern cultures (Legend of the Condor Heroes - another Chinese series I love - is a great example of this), so it really isn't your "fault" (I hesitate to use that word) for it not being your cup of tea!
Just a personal suggestion, in the future you could suggest piracy of books that support things like that. I personally pirate anything that i refuse to support with money. I thought the first book was interesting years ago, i definitely wouldn't find it as interesting now. Didn't know the whole gay conversion thing, but yeah, piracy is helpful in this area. hopefully im not going against the sub's rules by suggesting it (too lazy to look or care cuz i just delete my account eventually anyway everytime i make one here), but honestly, in this particular instance, piracy feels entirely warranted if one doesn't want to support something. And that goes for other things beyond books to in my personal opinion. But im also not really against piracy in general either. But i definitely think that piracy of things that you don't want to support just makes sense. It's refusing to vote with your wallet in some sense, perhaps.
My wife is an author and I was trying to explain this to her the other day. Pirated copies aren't "lost customers" but were statistically unlikely to ever be customers in the first place.
If i had known J.K. rowling was a terf and i had known what a terf was when i was younger i would have never bought any of her books. And i wish i could get a refund for every book, and in fact, every person who wants a refund should be entitled to one in my opinion. And she is non-deserving of all of the money she has ever made. She made a good play hiding her trash personality. Now shes got money and shes a shitty person. and she doesnt have to hide it anymore.
Cool opinion, and I don't fault you for it... but I loved it. 🤷♂️
Id recommend anything by Becky chambers. I just adore her writings.