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[-] Sopje@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

Lmao you are not an ally in fighting global warming if you don’t support major changes in infrastructure. You are taking this way too personally, you’re in a fuck_cars community crying about how we shouldn’t be mean about cars.

You can agree that EV’s are a non-solution while still accepting that you live in a place that’s so fucked up that it doesn’t provide you with an alternative.

[-] Floon@lemmy.ml -5 points 7 months ago

No, I'm saying that removed about EVs does what, exactly? The infrastructure change you're glib about happens how? You haven't even thought of that. You have a goal, but no map from here to there. You're still stuck at the fuck cars stage it seems.

Try to actually solve the problem instead of removed about incremental solutions that don't do enough for your taste.

[-] wopazoo@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

do you not realize that the existing car infrastructure requires constant maintenance

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 7 months ago

Infrastructure change at the scale you're speaking about is not unheard of. The Netherlands did it twice. First because Europe got the shit bombed out of it and building car centric cities was trendy, then second because they realized what a shit idea that was and reversed it.

Sure, the Netherlands was never sparse in the first place, but nobody's asking for trains to farmer John's house in Nebraska. If the Netherlands can rework their cities to at least chillax on cars, so can American cities.

I know using the Netherlands as an example is trite, but urban planners literally know the solutions.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

We do have a map to our goal, it's called Marxism-Leninism.

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