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Israel’s relentless bombardment destroyed over 70% of Gaza homes
(www.aljazeera.com)
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Maybe I'm just getting soft, but I think it's been pretty wild to watch a government murder tens of thousands of innocents real-time.
Those of us old enough to remember Rwanda have seen it before. I take issue with gov'ts who've also seen it before and still do sweet fuck all about it.
Rwanda, Serbia, Armenia, and still ongoing that everyone is ignoring, the Rohingya, Uyghurs and Sudan.
Russia is also marching 100's of thousands of their minorities and people of the Donbas to their deaths, and slaughtering Ukrainians while doing it, they are double dipping sort to say.
World War 2 also had a little genocide issue....
The big difference is that we were supposed to be above this shit by now after 75 years of "never again".
Instead we've once again stooped down to the same moral level with the Ubermensch trying to expand their Lebensraum shit. And Westen governments are actually supporting it.
When I saw the Uyghur camps I didn't think "we could do worse than that" was an option.
Perhaps it's not quite as many as western media claims, but it's definitely more than 0. I mean, governments kill more than 0 people even if they actively try not to.
Where's your evidence?
Then why condemn someone else's without supplying your own? A downvote should do instead.
Well ok. If we'll look instead of an example where the government is actively trying to kill people, https://www.shahit.biz/eng/ lists about 77k victims in the Uyghur Genocide.
Yeah, fair enough. I'll keep my comment up as a permanent record of my stupidity.
The West only cares when it affects their geo-political interests such as access to natural resources or tying up another country in never ending war.
Edit: Hit submit way too early
Russia has murdered almost 20 000 civilians, perhaps around 500 000 soldiers in total (both sides) in its mindless war in Ukraine. Not all of them innocent certainly, but I'd guess at least 90%. And they're not even trying to protect themselves from anything.
And if you've been paying attention, this has been going for almost 2 years now. And still goes on. One best case scenario that Estonia recently presented in a report was that Russia will lose the war in 2 years. So if the rate keeps until then, we're looking at about a million deaths in total. Granted, Ukraine and Russia's combined population is a lot higher than the Gaza strip. Senseless deaths still.
They're going to remove Hamas, either the easy way or the hard way.
And by hard you mean the genocide way.
No, Palestinians will still exist after Hamas is gone.
We had the holocaust and Jewish people still exist, are you denying that genocide as well? A genocide doesn't have to be a success to be a genocide.
Removing Hamas is not a genocide, and Palestinians will still exist after Hamas is successfully removed.
The only way to do that is by ending the occupation
You're seeing the way they can do it
It's clear that living next to Hamas is unacceptable to Israelis.
Yes, so Israelis should relocate and dismantle the Israeli state. The comment you replied to meant the only way to remove Hamas is to end Israeli occupation of Palestine. Wouldn't Israeli people be safer in say, Florida or anywhere else than where they are?
Well thats just delusional
Living next to the ANC was unacceptable to South Africans too. Same with IRA next to British people. But a peace deal was made.
What peace deal do you think Hamas would accept?
Hamas has said since 2004 they are willing to accept a two state solution, and a long term peace, but not one where Israel continues to bomb them or try stealing more land. They’re hardliners but so is Likud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#Political_and_religious_positions
I think you should research more about Hamas positions.
I’m very familiar with their positions despite the poorly-managed edit wars on Wikipedia. They are undoubtedly hardline but so is Likud. Hamas has been calling for a two state solution since 2004 (which they called “a divorce” from the Jews) and even updated their charter in 2017 to reflect that new reality. If all you know about them is Wikipedia then I’m sorry for you.
They're going to remove Palestine. Whether Hamas still exists afterward will be irrelevant, except maybe to serve as some nightmare boogeyman that Israel's leadership can use to justify literally anything.
Israel could already have Gaza if they really cared to.