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[-] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

“I wonder if there trully is any significant distance between Biden and Trump in terms of democratic principles.”

Are you serious? What a completely naive and ignorant take. Gee, I wonder if there’s much difference between Biden and a man who LITERALLY tried to overthrow the government and has stated, quite clearly, his desire to be a dictator.

I don’t understand your “logic” at all here.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

When in a Circus, the out of control clown might be the one getting your attention but its the quiet pickpockets working the crowd that are doing most of the damage.

Trump and Biden both couldn't care less about the what the people who voted for them want, it's just that one is a loudmouth and uses overt means to try to subvert Democracy whilst the other one is quieter and does his subversion of Democracy via campaign contributions, appeals to negative vote, not fullfilling that which he promises in the campaign trail undemocratic primaries and so on.

Ultimatelly in both cases those who vote for either of them end up not being represented at all.

One could say that Trump-style subversion of Democracy has actually been less successful that the style practiced by Biden, mainly because Trump is so spectacularly incompetent. In fact plenty of less loud and more sneaky Republicans who practice the same style as Biden are probably much more dangerous.

Whilst I myself would also tend to see Trump as the most dangerous, in light of just how confident Biden is that he can do whatever he wants without being punished by voters, I'm starting to ponder on "what does he know which I don't" and if I and most people haven't been foolled into seeing the loudmouth as much more dangerous when the quiet one is also dangerous.

Granted, I'm an outsider, don't even live in the US, and don't really have to make a choice between swallowing my principles and vote for the quieter Nazi-lover to keep out the loud Nazi-lover or not vote at all.

The closest I've been to that situation was when I lived in the UK, were I ended up joining the Greenparty - even though I could only vote in Local and EU elections and it's a very small party - and just helped them out with campaigning.

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