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submitted 1 year ago by dessalines@lemmy.ml to c/meta@lemmy.ml

It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it's users will not be allowed to proceed.

We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.

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[-] hydra@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Thank you so much! Let's make sure the XMPP situation never repeats ever again.

[-] elephantintheroom@vlemmy.net 14 points 1 year ago

Still using heavily encrypted, self-hosted XMPP to talk to my family without META.

Even if they somehow manage to drag the majority of users over to their platform, we'll still have our little free haven.

[-] AeroBlue@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Yea most people who will use threads probably wouldn’t use other Fediverse things or even know what they are. And people who are already here hate Meta anyway

[-] elephantintheroom@vlemmy.net 11 points 1 year ago

Yep. My only concern about Meta joining the Fediverse through ActivityPub is privacy related.

Any federated instance can read any other federated instance, their users and what they do or what they talk about. A perfect victim for Meta's ad-targeting data siphon.

[-] AeroBlue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yea that’s interesting, it’s already public data but I get your point.

[-] elephantintheroom@vlemmy.net 7 points 1 year ago

It's public data to some degree.

It's a whole other thing when they can see what an admin of an instance can see.

[-] Godspeed@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I think the more concerning part is the medium in which people use Threads. It's one think for Meta to scrape for data, it's a much worse thing for someone to install the apps on the phone.

[-] elephantintheroom@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

That's the last, worst step... Installing any Meta app on your device, making it a de facto telescreen.

[-] Blxter@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

So how would it see what the admin sees if it is not an admin of the instance?

[-] elephantintheroom@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago

Any admin from any instance can as long as both instances are federated with each other.

Say I upvote something on lemmy.ml, then the admins of every instance federated with lemmy.ml can see it in their logs.

Doesn't seem bad? It can be if someone collects this data en masse to feed some ad-algorithm with it. Or much worse, an adversary gets this data to target people based on their opinions, to dox them, etcetera.

[-] FunkyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They probably can already see that. It doesn't take much to start an instance.

[-] elephantintheroom@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

True. Still worth fighting.

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