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Good news for free speech
No. Bad news for free speech, "good news" for antisemitism.
Anti-genocide and anti-apartheid ≠ antisemitism
Genocide is what Hamas wants to do.
And no i don't think Israel did nothing wrong, its not apartheid however.
"Broadly speaking, apartheid was delineated into petty apartheid, which entailed the segregation of public facilities and social events, and grand apartheid, which dictated housing and employment opportunities by race."
How is it not apartheid?
Edit: wait a minute, why am I arguing with two cookie-based accounts that are pro-Israel and less than a week old on this thread...
Maybe stop arguing or something? Who doesn't like Cookies? Like whats your problem?
Anyway, where is apartheid in Israel? Have you been there? Have you seen any? Or are you just against a two state solution? I don't really see your point in just putting in the definition of apartheid and believing that proves your point?
Chomsky called it worse than apartheid and that was in 2014
https://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/8/noam_chomsky_what_israel_is_doing
There is a documentary called roadmap to apartheid that compares side by side what happened in south Africa and what continues to happen everyday to the Palestinians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3psMGQE0iW4
I highly recommend it, it is hard to watch though.
As much as I agree, Chomsky is no trustworthy source on what is or isn't a genocide
The man has bent himself in so many knots denying what happened in the yugoslav wars that I'm pretty sure Bosnia would actively refuse to prosecute if someone shot the bastard in broad daylight in the middle of Sarajevo.
genocide is what some people on both sides want to do and it's sad that they are influential enough that no resolution of this conflict is in sight in my lifetime -.-
TIL criticizing a government is exactly the same as being racist towards its whole nation.
Thats not what the restriction was about.
"Free speech is when you're not allowed to say mean things about Bibi, it hurts his feelings!"
I don't think you are making anyone more empathetic towards your goal of killing civilians so you cna have even more stolen land.
Honestly, by now I think YOU can be blamed for anti semitism. By being a literal asswipe of a combo of fake religion, inbreeding and TERROR.
Curious what religion is not fake in your opinion?
The flying spaghetti monster of course!
Im definitely not in favor of ho Israel does it but criticism of that was never forbidden, forbidden was to "question" Israels right to exist as a country. And doing that is indeed antisemitism
Oh and im anti theist in general. I want to abolish all religions because you can see what they do.
Both the wording of the rule and the use of the rule was very clear that this was about all criticism of Israel unless it's "criticism" like "Israel doesn't do enough to protect itself".
That "guideline" is hate-speech and genocide-apologism in it's most cynical form because it is disguised as anti-discrimination. The people who proposed and implemented it should be ostracized.
No country has a right to exist.
Being anti-colonialist is forbidden? Is it antisemitism because this time the colonizers claim to do it in the name of Judaism?
Ah yes because Israel is a colony or has colonies...
According to Wikipedia:
There is a fine line, however, restricting the ability to criticize genocide is not a good thing— unless people consider Palestinians as subhuman, subanimal, which we acknowledge some do.
Yes, but there is no genocide.
40,000 confirmed civilian deaths in 3 months isnt genocide? Israeli's are openly murdering anyone who looks even vaguely Palestinian in Gaza and the West Bank
The only reason Gaza isn't being called a concentration camp with a theoretical government at this point is because the west largely aren't aware that Israel subjects holocaust survivor families to abject poverty and being called Soap People.
They were literally caught stealing the reparation payments intended for the victims and their families, so much so that a NGO is now the responsible party for distributing the remaining survivor payments.
They openly cooperate with neo nazi and neo nazi associated movements in the west because the more hostile westerners are to jews the more settlers they can claim need to he housed by evicting and killing Palestinians.
These guys sure are doing a fucking lot of nazi shit for how offensive everyone seems to think pointing out they're doing stuff the Nazis did is.
Yes there is.