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[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 99 points 7 months ago

If they hand you a gun and tell you to march off to die in a foreign land, turn the gun around on your killer.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 87 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

LOL, the support of Ukraine is happening exactly so we don't get WW3 and won't have to send our soldiers to fight.

Anyone who thinks Ukraine is Russia's ultimate goal is extremely naive.

It wasn't Crimea, it wasn't Georgia, it wasn't Chechnya. It won't stop until

Here's a quick summary of what it is about: https://youtu.be/M6tsp4mFix8

This is a book published in 1997 which Putin was following and largely until full invasion of Ukraine everything was going smoothly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

[-] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 16 points 7 months ago

Ffs. Russia is not going to fight NATO. Why'd they attack Georgia in 2008? Answer: To prevent them from joining NATO. Why'd they attack Ukraine? Answer: to prevent them from joining NATO. Russia is not dumb enough to fight anything that can throw nukes, that's why they're preventing the NATO umbrella from covering (what they consider to be) their sphere of influence.

[-] ElegantBiscuit@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago

Their plan isn’t to fight NATO directly. It’s to instigate domestic political support in foreign countries against entities like NATO and the EU, and push nationalism and isolationism and defeatism into enough people’s heads so that the bigger countries think it isn’t worth fighting Russia to defend another smaller country that is not their own. It’s about killing the idea of article 5 and thus NATO’s reason to exist, so that Russia can confront each country on a bilateral basis where they have the military advantage if no one is coming to their defense.

This probably wont happen with an assault on a major urban area, but little chunks of unpopulated Finland or Norway. How willing would the American public be to send pilots to die for Lapland? If the major powers blink and don’t feel like committing, Russia continues to escalate, like they’ve been doing for the past 15 years

[-] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

To be fair, Lapland contains Santa Clauses' workshop.

Imagine the support the West would give to save Christmas.

/S

[-] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I see you watch Anders Puck Nielsen on Youtube. Ryan McBeth is also interesting.

[-] Dogyote@slrpnk.net -1 points 7 months ago

That sounds like an extremely long-term plan, plus every action Russia would take in pursuit of this goal would be wildly counterproductive to the long-term, so I kind of doubt its true. For example, NATO just expanded in reaction to the Ukraine invasion.

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