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egg_irl — Memes about being trans people in denial and other eggy topics
!egg_irl
!egg_irl is for widely relatable memes about questioning one's gender or being an egg (a trans person in denial) as well as other eggy topics.
If you are looking for a place to discuss something specific to you or especially if you need help or are in crisis, we have communities and resources that can support you linked at the bottom of this sidebar.
General Rules:
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No bigotry.
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No spam, bots, or vote farming.
Rules on Content:
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No reposts.
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No personal-life posts, bingo cards, quizzes, selfies, "trans/not trans" lists, picrew, or non-memes.
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No visible names or usernames.
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Do not post or link to pornography.
Rules on Post Titles and Tags:
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Posts must be titled "egg_irl". An emoji or two is OK, but they have to be between "egg" and "irl".
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Posts that assume the viewer's gender and/or contain potentially triggering content must be spoilered and tagged at the beginning of the post title. Example content-warning tags that you can copy include the following:
[CW: Assumes Viewer is Transmasc]
[CW: Assumes Viewer is Transfem]
[CW: Assumes Viewer is Nonbinary]
[CW: Transphobia]
[CW: Violence]
[CW: Weapons/Firearms]
[CW: Disturbing Imagery]
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You may optionally include other tags, such as:
[Transmasc Meme]
[Transfem Meme]
[Nonbinary Meme]
[Gender-Nonspecific Meme]
Rules on Post Text:
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If possible, include an image description for accessibility.
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Add sources for art.
Rules on Comments
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If a post is tagged with a specific gender identity, keep the conversation centered on that identity.
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You must follow the Egg Prime Directive. You may not push or coerce people into identifying or not identifying a certain way. You must respect them as the gender they claim to identify as.
Recommendations:
We strongly encourage you to include your pronouns in your account bio so that others know how to refer to you without misgendering you. If you're questioning or unsure of your pronouns, that's totally cool—just say so.
Sibling Meme Communities
- !traa (or search for https://lemmy.ca/c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns in your instance if the link doesn't work)
Sibling Non-Meme Communities
- !transgender (or search for https://lemmy.ml/c/transgender in your instance if the link doesn't work)
- !trans (or search for https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/trans in your instance if the link doesn't work)
- !ftm (and transmasc) (or search for https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/ftm in your instance if the link doesn't work)
- !mtf (and transfem) (or search for https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/mtf in your instance if the link doesn't work)
- !nonbinary@lemmy.one (or search for https://lemmy.one/c/nonbinary in your instance if the link doesn't work)
- !lgbtq_plus@beehaw.org (or search for https://beehaw.org/c/lgbtq_plus in your instance if the link doesn't work)
- !lgbtq_plus@lemmy.blahaj.zone (or search for https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/lgbtq_plus in your instance if the link doesn't work)
Community Resources:
- The Trevor Project / 1-866-488-7386 — A US-based crisis prevention and intervention hotline and community
- TransLifeLine / 1-877-565-8860 — A US-based trans peer support hotline
- The Gender Dysphoria Bible — An in-depth explanation of the different types of gender dysphoria
- Trans Resources — A directory of resources for trans, non-binary, and gender-non-conforming people
- LGBTQ+ Healthcare Directory — A directory of LGBTQ+ accepting Healthcare providers
- Trans Resistance Network — A US-based mutual-aid organization to help trans people facing state violence and legal discrimination
- TLDEF's Trans Health Project — Advice about insurance claims for trans healthcare procedures
- TransLifeLine's ID change Library — A comprehensive guide to changing your name on any US legal document
I think what they mean is that trying to argue that a person playing a girl character makes them a girl, regardless of their identity is the part they don't agree with. I agree with them on that (if that is the case) I do not believe that actions by a person can make one semantically trans, I believe (as do most decent people) that the way a person identifies is what determines gender identity, and trying to go against that is hurtful and invalidating.
I acknowledge that this meme is a person calling themselves out, but it sets a chilling precedent for invalidating Gender Non-conforming people, who almost certainly will do things like this that step way outside of gender stereotypes, yet they still fully identify as male. It invalidates them because it's in a sense saying that their actions make the way they identify invalid, that's what saying someone is trans in-denial does, it invalidates their current identity based on their actions.
@FirstMajesticComet dawg.... its not that deep 😭😭😭
It's just a meme I made like 3 or 4 years ago because I saw a skin on pmc with a funny name. I really didn't put that much effort into it. This has a CW for assuming the viewer is transfem because I am transfem and it's from my perspective when I was an egg. Also I don't think this meme at all invalidates gender non-conforming people who identify as male. Just because it was intended for a different audience, it doesn't mean they don't exist or are invalid. Would making a meme like this targeting gender non-conforming people who identify as male invalidate trans women?
I agree with your statement, playing as a girl character is not what makes you irl a girl. However, this meme isn't about the character you play as. It's about the amusing title that the Minecraft skin has, and it's not a skin I made, so I didn't choose the title.
You do realize that is egg_irl, right? This whole community is about being trans in-denial.
I feel like this meme does the exact opposite. Top text essentially says "On the surface I'm a guy" and bottom text essentially says "but actually I'm a girl". At least to me that doesn't seem cisnormative.
Ah Sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought it was about a person being a girl because they like to play as one. Which obviously isn't right. A person is a girl because they identify as one. I also wasn't aware that you didn't make the skin, that is kind of funny.
Yeah, I was misunderstanding the meme as saying that a person who does X (X being playing as a girl) is automatically trans-in-denial by the action, rather than admitting to having been in-denial in the past. I say this meaning that a person shouldn't be told that they are in-denial because ultimately people need to come out when they are ready and you can't always tell if someone is or isn't, basically Egg Prime directive.
Again operating under the idea that the incorrect idea that the meme was about how people breaking gender stereotypes are that gender they're presenting as. Cisnormative was probably not the right word. I'm stupid and not always good with words.
Sorry for misunderstanding.
Uh no, I'm not. I'm pointing out how trying to argue that actions semantically define a person's gender identity is invalidating to a person's identity. For example arguing that a male identifying person who dresses and acts fem is an egg, or that a transfem person who dresses, acts and presents masc is "faking it". Both cases are invalidating to a person's identity. I'm saying that egging is another form of invalidation because if we're going to say that people's gender identity is valid by identification we shouldn't say that the gender the person is invalid because they aren't behaving in ways that match the stereotypes. Sorry if there was a misunderstanding.
Hate my femmy side? I'm literally dressed fem right now. You shouldn't always assume the worst in people, it's really not helpful, and ends up making you look bad.