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[-] dan@upvote.au 94 points 10 months ago

A lot of Linux drivers are like this - just one or two people maintaining them. They usually eventually mainline the driver rather than having a separate Git repo though.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's mind boggling just thinking that things like this depend on the effort of one or two guys... while on the other hand, it's not so uncommon that a team of engineers and developers fails to deliver a working (mostly) bugfree product.

I think management is who is responsible for the shitty decisions, as always... and, in general, just holding the team back.

[-] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago
[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago

What's the deal with Nebraska? Are people from there like really polite and helpful?

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago

There's nothing to do in Nebraska except drink and maintain Linux drivers

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

Lol ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

[-] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's just a random location that was chosen for the joke, it's in the middle of nowhere

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh, OK, I think I get it, we have a place like that in jokes over here as well, except it's made up ๐Ÿ˜‚.

[-] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Based only on that comment, I'm going to guesssss...... Germany?

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, a bit more south ๐Ÿ˜‚.

Germans have that as well ๐Ÿ˜‚? Wow, didn't know that. Ours is called "Sviripichino", it litelarly means "the place where you blow (play ๐Ÿค”... like an instrument) on the pussy" ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ.

[-] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Next guess is Austria. It just sounded like one of those old world German gems. I love this. This is the kind of thing you don't have when your language and culture are less than a thousand years old.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I kinda pitty the US for that.

But, to be honest, one of the reasons why you guys were so good at progressive ideas was just that, no baggage, no history, it's up to you to make your own... and you did manage to make great history to be honest, I mean, every modern music style decendes from jazz/blues. Not to mention the 60's and rock, metal afterwards, I mean... the list is pretty extensive. And so many great movies have been produced in the US, one of my favorites to be honest. Nowadays, you're not so much a force for progress, but last century was all yours regarding technology and art, no doubt there ๐Ÿ‘.

Anyway, no, I live in a small country in the Balkans. You should probably visit the AMA I made today that was inspired by these questions ๐Ÿ˜‚.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/13438918

[-] dan@upvote.au 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The thing with drivers is that the hardware they're written for doesn't really change. A particular network card is always going to behave the same way. Once the driver works well, it's pretty much complete, and the only changes that are needed are bug fixes, updates to handle new firmware, or adjustments if the kernel changes some implementation detail of how drivers are used. There could be months or years between updates to the driver.

Some manufacturers have great first-party Linux support. Intel is a good example - they contribute a lot of code to the kernel, and their drivers are maintained by employees.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There could be months or years between updates to the driver.

Yes, but someone still has to implement that "a thing or two" in it every few years.

Some manufacturers have great first-party Linux support. Intel is a good example - they contribute a lot of code to the kernel, and their drivers are maintained by employees.

Agreed. But, to be honest, most aren't. Just take a look at Realtek. There's bound to be at least one chip made by them on your board (in most cases, two, LAN and audio, two very crucial pieces of hardware).

[-] dan@upvote.au 1 points 10 months ago

Realtek NICs are junk (even the buggy Intel I225-v chip is better) so I try to avoid them, but I honestly haven't ever checked which sound chip my motherboard uses. I'll have to check if it's a Realtek one. Realtek is generally the lower-end manufacturer for cheaper products.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Realtek is basically on every retail motherboard manufacturer. Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, Biostar, ASRock, etc. If you're talking about hi-end or server grade motherboards, yeah, but let's face it, the chips are cheap so they're practically in every household.

[-] dan@upvote.au 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've got a "ASUS ROG Strix B550-F" which wasn't exactly a high-end motherboard when I got it (I got it because it was cheap), but it's got an Intel chip rather than a Realtek one. The lower-end motherboards have Realtek NICs but I usually don't get the cheapest of anything since there's usually a pretty big difference in quality if you spend just a little bit more.

The Intel I226-V chip on that motherboard is only $2.87 each (for quantities of 1000, even cheaper for large bulk orders) and the manufacturer can likely use the same PHY chip and timing components, so it doesn't really increase the price a lot to use a non-Realtek chip.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

ROG is a Republic Of Gamers edition motherboard... it's probably a lot more expensive than the lower end models (like my Z97-K board for example... and that wasn't cheap as well, like 100โ‚ฌ back in the day).

I guess the definition of "cheap" varies from person to person. My definition of cheap is lower end (50, 60โ‚ฌ tops) motherboards. I don't buy those either, but make no mistake, they're a common household item in 3rd world countries (I can vouch for that).

I have no idea what the prices are for a Realtek NIC vs. other manufacturers. All I know is, they're usually the default choice for cheaper models... which probably means they're dirt cheap. Have no idea how this compares to Intel or other manufacturers (Marvel, Qualcomm, etc.).

In general, yes, those NICs are cheap. But, let's take USB to Ethernet adapters. I don't think Intel has a solution for those things... or if they do, it's probably more expensive than the one Realtek offers. It's $5 on AliExpress. They're not great, but they get the job done (no wifi, no onboard etherent plug on a brand new laptop, and you need internet to get it up to date with drivers). I haven't looked for anything else since this one does a great job, but I guess that, even if there is an Intel based solution out there, it'll be at least tripple the price of the Realtek one.

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