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Chromecast with Google TV is now serving full-screen, auto-playing Chicken Tender Wrap ads
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Nope.
That's just how the ad at the top looks and always has, and yes, it plays if you hover over it, they always have, and yes, it expands out if you keep watching it and don't touch anything.
If you use the UI normally the ad doesn't play, the person in that video explicitly played the ad.
Get this clickbait shit outta here. It's literally an ai generated article that stole content off a reddit post as it's "source". Have some standards people.
Why the fuck are there ads at all?? The advertisement did exactly as the article says it does -- it autoplays full screen if you cursor over the fucking advertisement.
Not clickbait at all.
You have to cursor over it for several seconds and click nothing before it plays, you have to intentionally opt into triggering it.
I have a Samsung TV and it's kind of irritating that it does this same thing. Any option you leave selected for a few seconds will start playing a sample
It's frustrating to have to go hunt for a safe place to put my cursor so my TV doesn't start playing something I don't want it to.
I use a Chromecast with Google TV everyday and I do not receive autoplay ads on the home screen. You are free to disable ads on the home screen in the settings and you are free to install third party home screens.
In fact, the only interaction with the home screen that is required is when I see it briefly before pressing the Netflix button on the remote which I have remapped to Plex or jellyfin using the button mapper app.
Even with the default home screen you do not see auto play ads unless you select them and continue watching.
This sounds like opting in to me. 🤷♂️
Well the issue with what the above poster described is Samsung TV litters the autoplay on everything, so you feel like you are playing minesweeper trying to find somewhere you can leave the cursor without triggering an autoplay.
At least on the CCwGTV there's just the one big ad at the top, but everything else is a "safe" zone to leave the cursor, abd the cursor starts out default on the app row.
Also, CCwGTV allows you to just switch to a different launcher (without ads) entirely if you wish.
I have this issue with Netflix's app, pretty much every tile will loudly autoplay if you don't touch the cursor for a second, taking over the screen. You have to hit the back button to pop-up the settings menu to stop that from happening otherwise you'll walk away from your TV with some random 10s trailer playing on loop forever while you deal with something.
As an AppleTV user I’m honestly shocked folks are ok with their product they paid for having advertisements on it like that anyways?
It’s one thing to advertise a show or an app / service that is in the App Store but another to show actual ads.
It’s weird to me.
Then again, you and your advertisement ID are googles business.
We are not okay with it.
But else you have this, some flavor of AndroidTV + Launcher, an AppleTV which probably doesnt have feature parity with all apps available for the AndroidTV or you setup your own device which involves (probably) work.
I’m not sure what app feature parity you are talking about, unless it’s a specific application for android(?)
For what it’s worth the Apple ecosystem is the “popular/trendy” one and businesses will cut their balls off to have their app work well on Apple stuff. I say that entirely from a “Apple is the zeitgeist” not one is better than the other standpoint.
Lmao no. The apple ecosystem is not the popular/trendy one, it's the expensive one where devs must pay a license to publish their apps. There's tons of open source apps that publish to the play store but don't publish in the apple store because it costs them money to do so. I use several apps that don't have parity in ios. TachiyomiSY, Wow (weather app that apparently was published to the iPad store, not the iPhone store..., it has no ads, customizable interface and it can connect to the local weather provider which is usually the most accurate), Notify (app that let's me configure extra stuff on my MiBand), Boost (no, voyager's interface sucks for me), newpipe(! There's a newpipe in ios but it's another app and has ads lmao).
Basically, if you want popular brand company apps, sure, they will be on ios, but I bet you they will be on android too, if not earlier because it's free to publish and nowadays if we are honest you can develop a single app with react native and voilà, make it into a functional app in both systems with minimal effort. However, the difference exists on the open source apps, on the small apps created by small devs that offer stuff for free, those don't publish into apple because it would cost them 99 USD per year just to be able to publish.
Can Apple have third party home screens?
No, that would allow someone to take over the device.
However, it does wake up to whatever app was last running so the difference is likely semantic.
Mine are always in the Plex app, even on TVs that have Plex apps because they cannot return to the exact same Plex screen.
It's weird that people are dropping hundreds or thousands on a tv only to cheap out on the device they are presumably using to stream their pirated content.
I have Apple TVs that have outlived their original TVs. From what I'm reading here many people are on their third or fourth chrome cast. Silly.
Folks who hate Apple will never see the product as good.
Nope
What I meant with parity was the app catalogue.
For example some (F)OSS devs may only be available for AndroidTV.
Maybe not officially in the store but you can still sideload them to some extent.
Is that even possible for devices like the AppleTV?
You can sideload apps on Apple TV.
So unusual for Apple but very welcomed move.
We’ve been able to sideload on iOS for quite some time.
There have been jailbreaks (equivalent to a root) for iOS devices for quite some time, newer devices take more time to break but it always gets there.
There is a lot of misunderstanding and tech bro tribalism around android and Apple that makes folks blind to what the other has and does
further driving this tribalism is how my iPhone auto capitalizes Apple and iPhone properly but happily ignores chrome and android and google
If I need to jailbreak/root my phone to sideload it's a workaround.
I mean sideload as a feature without hacking my device and with that (to some extend) compromise security.
You can sideload apps without jailbreaking.
Since you started talking about iOS, do you actually mean the phone OS or ATV?
Because if phone OS: Since when were you able to sideload? Apple is still restricting it actively for all users and only now users in the EU will have the supposed option.
There have been tools to side-load apps for a while, it’s not an official process supported by Apple.
I haven’t had the need or want to sideload anything in a while so I’m not on top of it right now, but sideloadly appears to be the current tool for it.
I’m talking about both however.
I can hardly call that an intended feature and more a workaround very targeted to devs and not to customers.
The app may take care of it but...oh boy....
I have an android tv from Sony which is basically android tv without any kind of skin AFAIK. No ads. I had suggested videos from apps and stuff but hat was configurable and removed years ago.
A single apple TV is like $80 more than Google TV devices to do the same thing. I don't like the ads and they irritate me, but I have 4 TVs with streaming boxes (so I don't have to replace the screens. I'm not paying an extra $360 just to not have ads on the home screen.
It's just a situation where I'm not really okay with either option.
Most of the time it's this, rarely mcdonalds or Harvey's has an ad like this you need to hover over for several seconds to play, intentionally, and people turn it into rage bait garbage posts.
90% of the time it's just an add for a TV show or movie, and you still have to purposefully hover over it unmoving to start it playing, it's pretty opt in.
I don't even notice it, the ad starts out small at the top and your cursor starts out on the Apps row, you have to very intentionally trigger the ad.
90% of the time the ads are for movies or TV shows on the streaming services you have installed (and presumably an account for) anyways, so there's been non zero times where I did go abd hover the ad to watch it cuz I was like "oh hey I actually wanna watch that, is it coming out soon? No shit!"
The other 10% if the time it's mcdonalds or Harvey's or whatever, I barely notice it as I spend pretty much all of my time with the Google tv "inside" an app.
Very little time gets spent on the home screen, it's a glorified Start menu to pick an app and open it up, so I don't, to be blunt, give much of a shit that for half a second I can see a big Mac at the top of my TV screen before I click the 1 button to open Netflix.
Also more often than not I use my phone app to push to the TV, so my process is:
TV is turned off atm, I open on my phone (Netflix, Disney plus, crunchyroll, Amazon prime, YouTube, etc)
I click the cast button on my phone
TV auto detects activity, starts turning on, meanwhile my chromecast is already loading up the app and booting into it
By the time my TV screen flips on, the app is opened as well and my content starts to play, so u never even saw the home screen in the first place
End result: I rarely even see the app realistically anywho.
I guess to me I’m just confused that they have a spot to show ads to the user.
You are correct, CCwGTV didn't use to show ads, but in the last 4 years or so they have been testing it and it has become more mainstream
Frogs in boiling water
I bought CCwGTV when it first came out, I don't recall the adbar at the top ever not being present.
It just was strictly ads for TV shows / movies for the first while and "external" ads for stuff like mcdonalds only showed up later.
But I'm pretty sure I remember ads for Black Widow on it front and center, and that was only 5? 6? months after it came out. (The ads were showing up 1-2 months prior to theatrical release iirc?)
Yes, that is correct. The center banner has always been there and it showed Movie and TV show promotions, but 1-2 years after the CCwGTV came out, Google started to experiment with ads: what I consider an ad is the Carl's Jr. ad that everyone is losing their mind over right now.
I do not consider a Movie or TV show promotion an ad as I like those because it helps me know what is available to watch on different services or what might be playing at the theater. For example, when Oppenheimer came out, Google ran a promotion for it and if you clicked on it you could watch a trailer or pay money to buy it.
Oh, yeah innthat case I agree.
Either way the mechanic of "you have to move the cursor to purposefully hover on the ad, abd then wait multiple seconds, and then not click anything" opt in behavior on the ads has lnt changed since day one.
So seeing news articles pretending this is anything new at all really just goes to show how shit "journalism" has gotten over the years. Literally like, 5s of looking this up and you'll find out this isn't anything new.
SMH
I bought the Chromecast with Google TV (older version, not the newer 4k one, which I also own now) when it first cane out.
The home screen hasn't changed since day 1 when I plugged it in.
It always had an ad at the top, and you always have had to purposefully move the cursor onto the ad itself and not touch anything for multiple seconds before it played.
I owned the OG chromecast and chromecast 2 before that, and you are right, that one didn't have ads, but it also didn't have much of anything really.
I've had an Android TV for about five years. I recently bought a TV with Google TV. I don't know if this is how Google TV has always been, but it wasn't that way in Android TV.
Seeing the home screen on the Google TV made me immediately regret the purchase. Unfortunately, the model I bought disabled the ability to make alternate launchers default. I was able to put it in app mode, but it was still plastering ads everytime you turned on the TV or hit the home button. Absolutely disgusting.
The home screen is so bad I finally set up pi-hole on my network. Now there is just a blank area where the ads used to be with a notification saying I'm not connected to the internet, although my services are fine.
I'll never by a Google TV again unless I can make alternative launchers default. I'm really glad I installed pi-hole, those TV send so much info back to Google. I recommend it to anyone.
Apps Only mode is a decent workaround… for now. https://support.google.com/googletv/answer/10070784?hl=en
Really cuts down on the amount of clutter and suggestions on the main screen.
Yeah, it was much better, but still had ads showing everytime I turned on the TV. The only real fix was the pi-hole blocking the domains I posted on another comment.
Smart TVs are the stupidest fucking things.
No TV manufacturer is actually willing to put processing power or networking features in a TV, and they're never willing to spend money developing the software, so even new, they're slow as shit, and you can no longer realistically use them for 10 years, they'll go obsolete. A $35 external computer is more powerful and I've been using mine for a decade now without a problem. The interface is more straightforward. I don't need to log into anything. I don't need a special remote, I can just use my phone. The TV manufacturer can't spy on me. There's no microphone.
Dumb TV + Chromecast is just a thousand times better than a smart TV.
Yeah, I've never heard of the ads people complained about. Mine was just what new streaming show was being promoted. Kind of an add, but relevant and only on home screen.
But....
My Sony TV 100% was playing the Hardee's ad today.
It's not a huge deal, but still worse than it was yesterday
Yeah, we should all be out protecting mega corps from bankruptcy by fighting inconsequential misinformation on obscure social media platforms. Where would the world be without heroes like you? Thank you for your service.
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So you think it's okay to spread misinformation if it's about a giant corporation?
Misinformation is never okay, as it muddies the waters and makes it hard to know what you can trust. If we idly stand by and let a lemmy instance degrade to the point where garbage posts like this are commonplace, it becomes difficult to sift apart the actual news and stuff that matters from the shit deluge of misinfo.
Which means, yes, calling out misinformation / shit posts even if it's about a megacorp, because shit in the water is still shit in the water.
There's no misinformation you're just pissed you got called out.
You and I have very different definitions of misinformation then.
Some of us live in reality and some of us accept advertisements in products you paid for. 🤷
Whether or not you care about ads doesn't have any bearing on what is, and isn't, misinfo.
I don't like ads either and use piholes on my network.
Doesn't change the fact the news article is misinformation, plain and simple.