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What opinion just makes you look like you aged 30 years

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[-] Fearofthefamiliar@beehaw.org 40 points 2 years ago

Cities are too car-oriented

[-] t0fr@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I agree with the sentiment, but this feels like the least boomer opinion ngl

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think it's simultaneously an opinion held by very old people who remember when they could just walk to the store and younger urbanists that want us to return to that. The people in the middle grew up in a car oriented society that hadn't completely lost small businesses and been locked down by traffic. And they now have a house way out in the burbs with a disdain for the traffic of the city. Urbanism threatens their way of life now. That's my opinion.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Most of the US has dug a hole that can't easily be fixed with its car-centric developments, people living there pretty much need a car for everything.

Driving there may be a pleasure, but I personally wouldn't want to live in that situation at all. I'm glad and lucky to have the equivalent of a mall just a 10 minute bike ride away, 25 minute walk, 5 minute bus trip.

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

America is definitely pretty deeply invested in car-centeic living. But I don't think it's impossible to get out of it. There's rising pressure to lower housing costs, traffic, and improve infrastructure quality. My city (which is about as car centric as it gets) is growing fast and most of that is with infil development. It's going to be a slow transformation but I think it will happen. I don't think American cities will look like European or Asian cities because they won't evolve the same way. But they will look different to how they look now.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Yep I agree - It's definitely possible for the US to shift away from it, some cities have even been transforming some of their busy central roads into pedestrianised boulevards (such as times square in NY, and a couple others I can't remember off the top of my head) and from an outsiders perspective been successful.

The difficulty is mainly going to be places like Culver City where some just don't get that cars don't scale well in dense urban areas like cities - they've voted to remove a 2 year old bike lane just to get back an additional driving lane. That's just going to move most of the bike riders back into their cars, filling that brand new driving lane (and the other existing driving lanes) with traffic that previously didn't exist. Hopefully over time positive changes will return though!

[-] Lobstronomosity@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Depends on the city. In my city, you could walk across the whole thing in maybe an hour, and anything major the furthest you would have to walk is about 30 minutes.

[-] dontforgetthat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Come to europe you'll like it here

this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2023
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