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That's not a question. The authors of the amendment unambiguously stated that they also meant rhe President. President Andrew Jackson, president at the time the 14th Amendment was ratified, explicitly referred to himself as either the “chief executive officer of the United States” or “chief civil executive officer of the United States.” He was referred to as the same during his impeachment.
Antonin Scalia also wrote in an opinion in 2014 that the President was an officer of the United States.
It's a bad faith argument with no merit. Of course, that doesn't mean the court won't agree with it, because the current SCOTUS is illegitimate and fully corrupt.
Andrew Jackson was president like 20 years before the civil war my guy. Ulysses S. Grant was president when the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868. I'm not really sure how you thought otherwise. Regardless, your other point about his reference to himself as an officer is irrelevant anyways because that's not what determines him to be an officer of the court.
The actual reason is that when the 14th Amendment was being signed, the specific question of "why does it not mention president" was asked nearly verbatim. One of the writers of the Amendment, who I'm forgetting the name of, replied to them by asking them to read over the part where it says "any officer". We know this because we have the minutes from that day, we have the transcription as it was recorded by hand at the time.
A federal court already determined Trump to have engaged in insurrection. By all accounts, he should be barred from running.
You're right, my mistake, it was Andrew Johnson. Grant was president by the time the amendmnt was fully ratified.
You originally said "at the time the 14th Amendment was ratified". But fair enough, I suppose. I understand what you mean.
You're right, I definitely was wrong. I also called him Jackson, so clearly I'm not a reliable source of accurate historical information.
Yeah the current SCOTUS could be expected to twist the words any which way. Hopefully not, but it wouldn't be out of character.