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is this an AnPrim space?
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Where did you get this nonsense? It has completely different origins than (anarcho or not) transhumanism.
Oh, hello again. Did you forget the last time we had this conversation and you entirely failed to provide any reason for your position and then when I pointed out how you didn't provide clear arguments to any of your claims you just quit?
Would you like to continue where we left off except now you cite any sources that don't contradict you?
Maybe this will convince you: https://slrpnk.net/post/6195369
But you seem to be trolling anyway...
Okay, I read the article and I think it's changed my perspective somewhat.
I can belive that the origin of Solar Punk, that is the genre of fiction that first bore that name, has little to do with Transhumanism. I don't believe I have read the earliest Solar Punk fiction, and so I cannot make an accurate guess. At the same time the politics, philosophy, and social movement that's been tied up with that name is what I'm really trying to talk about. I believe that the philosophy that underpins what is currently referred to as "Solar Punk", as codified in the manifesto, is at least inspired or informed by either recent Anarcho-transhumanism or some previously novel synthesis of philosophies that includes Anarchism and Transhumanism. There's just too much that Solarpunk philosophy has in common with the things my friends and the wider H+ community have been saying for years for me to believe it's a coincidence.
What? I spent hours explaining why I believed that Solarpunk aligns with and likely is inspired at least in part by Anarcho-transhumanism; I gave a comprehensive analysis of the similarities and differences between the two. How can you call that trolling? That's so insulting.
I'm gonna read the article now.
Bro, I looked at the other conversation you linked, and two responses in, you just drop this outta nowhere:
How do you expect people to react when you insult them for no other reason than politely disagreeing with you?
Yeah, that last sentence was uncalled for. I was feeling frustrated and dealing with some problems at work at the time, but I still shouldn't have said that.