view the rest of the comments
politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
What’s unrealistic is supporting the proposal to slow down adoption of EVs and think anyone would invest in infrastructure. You have great ideas that would really help adoption of EVs, except for the part of putting EVs on hold
I said "Good" because at the moment most EVs released in the USA are either gimped in some way like the bolt (55kw) or leaf (most leafs: 100 miles) or are expensive 50-70k luxury performance gods that a 7k govt discount isn't going to make much more popular with the average earning or price-conscious person, ignoring dealerships, potential insurance rate hikes (heard this was a thing), ev road taxes (wtf), etc are thrown in the way.
I ignored the evs on hold part because even without govt funding for infrastructure & whatnot, EVs & car sales are still as "free" of a market as during the GM EV1 days, & as such EVs will keep coming forth unless Ford, GM, Chevy, etc want their lunch eaten by Rivian, Tesla, Lucid, Fisker & friends.
As consumer reports said, potentially about 1/3rd of Americans have significant interest in purchasing an EV. Being the pessemist I am, and only looking at the 14% of definitely buy on how many car owners there are (230 million or so), that's still, at this point with all that is there today, at least 30 million people. As prices fall & used evs become more available, that number will rise significantly as it has in years past, and adoption of then subsidized & simple infrastructure will become a more financially advantageous investment than ever before.
In the end, I wasn't actually asking for a halt or cooling to EV sales. I was asking for a reevaluation of current plans & methods of encouraging adoption.
As you said, most EVs are too expensive. However they’ve been coming down in price, Tesla started a price war, and several manufacturers have more affordable models planned for the next couple years
The incentives put it over the line, especially if you have state in addition to federal.
Charging is quite reasonable for those who own a house, although admittedly more difficult and expensive for everyone else
Honestly, i think our biggest difference is where we look. I am looking at people who cant easily afford a new car period and have to maintain what they got. The 7k tax credit doesn't really help them. It helps the middle class where a 40k car with 7-10k tax credit sounds like a nice option.
Right now, im confident that if the coming cheaper cars flood in en masse, at first they'll be bought by the people who took interest with the 7k tax credit, and then as they get sold & enter the used market they'll be accepted by lower income families looking to save money on fuel and servicing over the years by fixing stuff themselves & just having less stuff which needs fixing.
I am of that income level, so there's that too.