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Italian town in turmoil after far-right mayor bans Muslim prayers
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The decision to ban burkini is weird. You can't swim nude on Italy's beaches, but can't swim fully clothed either?
I can see how banning the Burkini in indoor pools makes sense from a hygienic perspective, but banning them on public beaches is just to take something enjoyable away from a specific group of people.
France is pretty strict on that. Apparently men can't wear trunk style swimming bottoms. I'm not sure how they handle the burkini vs rashguard issue. I know rashguards are very popular with a lot of east asians because they worry about skin cancer.
People pee in the pool. I doubt a Burkini is going to make the hygienic difference.
Hard agree. Pools are gross—anyone getting in one knows that and accepts it. I’ll take a lady in a burkini over an unattended child any day.
How is burkini different from a swimming suit that would warrant banking them from indoor pools?
You usually use the public shower before entering the pool and wearing a burkini in there kinda defeats the point. For the same reason you're not allowed to wear anything other than regular swimwear.
I don't understand how wearing a burkini defeats the point of the shower. A burkini is swimwear.
The shower before a pool is to ensure people aren't entering the pool coated in dirt (e.g. sweat, hair, dead skin, etc..).
The chemicals in a pool are designed to bind to that dirt and kill any bacteria introduced.
There is a limit to the chemicals you can add to a pool (before it hurts humans) and once the amount has activated you need to drain the pool and refill it.
Swimming pools hold crazy amounts of water which is also really expensive to heat up, so pools want to do that as little as possible.
Clothing interfers with cleaning your body, so people entering near fully clothed (e.g. like a Burkina) will likely introduce more dirt into the pool.
That translates into increased costs for swimming pools or pools which maintain the old schedule and just operate unsafely.
This is all based on owning a hot tub and learning how to maintain it.
Hopefully this also explains why it doesn't matter people enter the sea fully clothed
Dude, I own a pool. What do you think a burkini is made out of, wool?
You seem to be intentionally missing the point, but to reiterate..
You shower before entering a pool to wash the dirt from your body off (your cleaning yourself).
The more of your body covered the less effective that shower is.
Ideally everyone would be naked in the shower, but there are probably outfits which increasingly render the shower less and less effective (e.g. speedos are better than shorts, etc .).
It would not surprise me if a Burkina covered so much that the cleaning shower is rendered pointless
Is there any data to show that the amount of extra dirt potential is actually enough to worry about? Seems like only a fraction of the people using the pool would be wearing them, and the end result would be no worse than a child who sneezed a booger in it.
Idk man, I understand the point you’re trying to make, but it all seems like thinly veiled bullshit to me (the law, not your words).
Everything here is wishful thinking. Ain't nobody showering. People jump straight into the pool.
A pool is a giant chlorine bath. If a shower right before jumping in would make a difference someone would need to not have showered for multiple days in advance. Which is a bigger problem by itself.
It's a giant non issue and you're grasping at straws.
No one showers before going in a public pool. You are right that it would be hygenic but it's not done by anyone. Furthermore elderly wear long sleaved swimsuits that are functionally the same as a birkini. The only difference is the hair covering. A hair covering improves hygiene of a public pool by not having stray hairs floating around in the same way food workers are required to wear hair nets.
Yes? No? Maybe?
Do you know what they’re made of?
Without looking it up?
Cause I sure as hell don’t
Of course I looked it up, I'm not about to get on here and spew bullshit like some ignorant jerkwad.
I'm not sure they ever empty most pools do they? They just continuously filter the water and keep adding chemicals?
He's saying if someone adds 10 gallons of chlorine instead of 5 depending on amount of water the pool holds...
Which shouldn't happen. The guy owns a hot tub and is extrapolating that to pool water maintenance. You test the water every few days and see exactly where your levels are, and you know how much of what chemicals you need to add.
Draining and heating pools has zero to do with a burkini. I think he just wants to argue the more fabric = more risk for contaminants introduced but went about it all the wrong way.
The sheer amount of fabric
And what’s wrong with that? How does that make it unhygienic
It makes it more unhygienic because there's more fabric that carries dirt, sweat, whatever
It doesn’t make sense even from a hygiene perspective, it’s just racism because no one has banned surfers and their wetsuits.