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submitted 5 months ago by fox@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

Worse than Buchanan, worse than Jackson, worse than Nixon, worse than Reagan

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[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago

Broke: Trump is the worst president because norms.

Woke: Buchanan or Andrew Johnson were the worst since they betrayed their country to uphold slaver power.

Bespoke: Jimmy Carter is the worst since the neoliberal turn and the Volcker Shock destroyed the economies of the 3rd world and set back the global movement towards liberation and socialism back by a 100 years.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

set back the global movement towards liberation and socialism back by a 100 years.

roughly 2070s? god i hope not. i don't think we're going to make it that long into climate hell under the current system

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Some of those years have a way of getting compressed down into weeks

[-] nightshade@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

I think you could make an argument for Jefferson, given how the Louisiana Purchase set the stage for a lot of the subsequent expansion and genocide. It's probably inevitable that America would expand to some degree, but it could have been slower if they didn't make the purchase, possibly resulting in a smaller and less powerful America.

Of course, there's also the part where he owned slaves and upheld slavery.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

For the normbrained libs, Jefferson also greatly expanded the power of the executive through the Louisiana Purchase and an undeclared war in the Mediterranean. Just from a "disregarding what the constitution says" perspective he was bad.

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

cw sexual violenceHe also raped his slaves

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