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Yes it did...
But back to the question: anyone remember what happened specifically with Jared Kushner's security clearance after it was denied over and over and over by the US Intelligence Community?
Ah fuck it, I'll just spoil it myself: Trump was able to override it and give him the clearance anyway! Yay checks and balances!
Presidents and politicians in general misusing their power is always an issue. That being said, there is nothing wrong with an elected representative of the people (president) overriding an unelected official who is his employee. At least presidents are accountable to the people in theory.
Then why even have a vetting process? In what world would anyone (including Democrats) be ok if Biden or Obama did anything close to this... I mean truly, go read the full story of just how many times Kushner was denied clearance and for what reasons. It's a fucking travesty, and defending it should embarrass you.
Also, we're not talking about just any job, we are talking about trusting this person with the highest level of secrets and sensitive information you can have access to. You don't just rubber stamp your skeezy son in law into the highest levels of security clearance, and ignore the decisions of the actual people who's literal career it is to make sure only certain people receive that access. Literally any other person on the planet wouldn't even have had a second chance, let alone like fucking 8.
I don't think you understand that the president isn't a king. This country was meant to have checks and balances to protect us from this kind of thing, but turns out all of that shit was based on the honors system. Oops.
Please try to re-read what I wrote. I am by no means defending issuing a clearence to Jared. I am saying the president is given this power by law, and in my opinion for a good reason.
Therefore Trump should definitly be held accountable by voters (as in no self-aware being should vote for him), but it is not a legal issue. What he did is (and should remain) legal.