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Why Are People Hating on Julian Assange?
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From what I've read, it was good at first, then he started cherry picking and only releasing leaks that were convenient for him and aligned with his views.
Who are the ones determining what is "convenient" to Asange and what are their politics? Just because someone will make the accusation does not make it truth.
He's a leaker. He HAS to be selective. He might not even be getting valid info. He might be getting doctored info that would expose his sources if he leaked it, etc, etc. There is every valid reason he has to not publish something that people ignore when they make such accusations.
Wikileaks is accused of not releasing information that would be harmful to the reputation of Russia.
OK? and that magically makes his other leaks invalid?
I don't think people are saying the leaks he released are invalid. What they are saying is that him being selective with what he releases is the problem. If it doesn't align with his political views for example.
Because he didn't release something (dunno what because that's never been specified, but he should have pulled something out of his ass, I guess) about the other side, therefore his leaks regarding the DNC make him a Russian asset.
Give your head a shake.
It's weird how some of you on this comment thread are so hostile. I'm literally just answering OP's question about why people are hating on Assange. I'm not defending or attacking him myself. Try shaking your own head and read the comments properly first before replying.
Again, and that makes him someone we should ignore and call for the death of?
I understand why people wouldn't like him as a person. I'm not seeing the connection to OP's question about him being publically hated to the point where people want him dead.
THAT ... is absolutely not at all what you reference. People don't want him dead for simply avoiding stepping on Russian toes. I'm trying to get you to think about why that is.
OP did something dishonest by making the title and body TOTALLY different, in my opinion.
The title is why are people hating on him. Lots of good answers to that.
The body then switches it to wanting him dead. I don't think very many people want him dead. I think even the CIA/US Government want him alive and in jail rather than dead.
edit: I also think you were implying that disliking him was the same as disliking the idea of whistleblowers generally or wikileaks specifically, though you seem to have walked that back. It definitely doesn't, though the fact that wikileaks is cowed by dictators like Putin is definitely a red flag when compared to their stated mission.
I'm not calling for his death, what are you talking about? Only OP implied that and they don't even say who exactly is calling for it. I literally just replied to your comment saying:
So yes, that is absolutely what I'm referencing, that people don't have a problem with the leaks themselves, rather it's him holding back other leaks that benefit him or do not align with his views that is the problem.
You are replying to people on this comment thread as if we are all OP. How about YOU think why you're all hotheaded with people simply trying to answer OP's question.
Don't shoot the messenger.
I'm literally only asking for clarification.
Everyone is acting like a bias is totally enough to justify asking for the death of someone...
Who called for his death?
I don't think it makes leaks invalid.
Imagine that I'm the star witness in a trial between my dad and my brother. During the case i share everything i have on my brother, including diaries from me youth, recipets and pictures of every activity we have dine together, and relevant correspondence, but refuse to share any information involving my dad, I'm cleary not a trustworthy source and my testimony will likely be thrown out.
Stop right there.
The wiki leaks ama on reddit openly admitted to selectively releasing to further their own agenda.
and that justifies ignoring leaks and wanting him gone?
Are people ignoring leaks? Calling for Assange's death? I haven't seen that.
Yes? What the hell do you think happens when everyone downplays everything negative happening to him? That he gets taken more seriously?
What do you think happens if he gets extradited to the many places that want to throw him in jail or worse? Is his life not forfeit even if it's wasted in a cell instead of snuffed out on the spot?
Humans are beyond pathetic when it comes to thinking through to the consequences of your actions. Do better.
That's not ignoring leaks or calling for his death.
Humans are pathetic when it comes to hyperbole. Words have meaning. Do better.