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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

‘boycotting’ / ‘speaking with your wallet’ used to be called ‘having an opinion’

Cancel Culture is none of those things. Cancel Culture is very specifically taking a platform away from someone who has misused it to do harm in our society.

Should you choose to vote with your wallet and boycott destructive people, though? Yes, absolutely. But deplatforming is observably effective, because we've seen that many of these loud, awful people simply aren't able to rebuild their following without the convenience of major social media platforms and interviews on major networks.

And without that following, they aren't shit. Alex Jones literally went bankrupt.

[-] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

so first, we generally agree and I don't want to get into an argument with you.

If cancel culture means 'deplatforming' to you, thats great. I agree deplatforming works. But the term 'cancel culture' is deliberately vague, does include boycotting, and is just one of the many terms made up by the right to create a 'boogey man'. I tend to throw these terms back in their faces as laughable ('woke', 'CRT' - all the same badly defined bullshit that just means 'things I don't like'). If your strategy is to embrace, rehab, and legitimize the terms thats fine too.

Alex Jones literally went bankrupt.

  • Still Online
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[-] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Still needs some quality time in a dark alley with a lead pipe

[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

And without that following, they aren’t shit. Alex Jones literally went bankrupt.

Alex Jones declared bankruptcy in an attempt to avoid paying the families who sued him and won. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64644080

But I overall agree: had he been deplatformed earlier, he could probably not have had so much influence and caused so much damage.

[-] vacuumflower -3 points 1 year ago

Deplatforming requires a centralized platform from which to deplatform. Ability to sometimes deplatform real Nazis (but usually not) is not worth centralizing crucial systems, end of story.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily. It just requires that admins do their job and be good stewards of their users and instances.

Mastodon, for instance, has a tag used exclusively for dogpiling fascists and their instances, so even though it's decentralized, people are vigilant and keep the destructive elements disconnected. (Or, at least, make a great effort of it, which is more than we can say for Twitter.)

[-] vacuumflower 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not a 140 characters person, so never got on the Twitter/Mastodon train.

However, I think this is a wrong approach. It would be better if they were connected, but easily filtered. Just like NSFW.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mastodon gives you 500 characters.

Also it has filters. :) I use those too, but I don't have Nazi or Fascist speech filtered because I think it's of the utmost importance that it be reported when it slips through. The upside is that in nine months of being on Mastodon, I can count on one hand the number of extremist toots I've seen. I'm glad filters exist for people who are emotionally upset by it, though.

It's a great platform and I love it.

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