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Can we instead have self driving buses?
I'm envisioning a system where you tell it your location and where you want to go, then it automatically sets up a route for the bus that coincides with where most people want to go and tells you to get off when it's near your destination. This can work in conjunction with self driving taxis if no one else is going to your destination.
Maybe minibus but in no way it will works with full sized bus.
The ideal bus to commute is a bus line with frequent bus, you don't have to check the time, just show up and in a few minutes there is a bus.
You're not gonna get self-driving buses without self-driving cars first, so this protest is directly fucking you out of what you want
Caving to corporations and spying on citizens isn't how you get self driving buses.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ddExZbKD8 but self driving?
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The problem is no one will use them. Busses are full of homeless people and people that NEED to use them than they want to. I was a bus driver for many years. They don't stop where everyone wants to go and it's a necessity to most instead of an integrated way of life. The entire American culture would need to change.
This is not the case in places outside the US.
Absolutely! I drove bus in the city in question. So I thought I would add my anecdote.
Yeah. But US culture needs to change anyways.
For sure. However do you change something that is mostly government subsidized and everyone that manages the systems are happy with the operations?
Is that the case? I suppose most car drivers are not happy with sitting in traffic jams. Better public transport would help.
They are happy with their paychecks and lives. Yes.
Make them as unhappy as you.
I don't know how it is in the US, but i can tell you that public transit is pretty good here in my city. A self-driving taxi would still be the ideal experience for sure, but taking a bus isn't that much worse, and it's definitely better than driving myself.
The entire American culture needs to change.
I totally agree. I am not sure how that will happen.
That literally just proves that we do in fact need more busses. More vehicles would allow for a wider coverage with more frequent and well organized stops.
I like your idea, but implementing it is a bigger issue than you may realize. The transit systems in San Francisco are based on counties. Therefore it is a completely different governing body for each way out of the city proper.
But coverage does not change the usage. That is several millions if not billions to reroute a busline to go to a different area. If only 10 people get on every two hours then another bus in a more populated area is more financially sound. We can sit and say more buses are the answer, but people being willing to get on to the bus is a part of the equation. I don't see how you are going to eliminate 2 extra hours out of everyone's commute and make them buy into it.
I heard this is the case in the United States. In Europe, as far as I can tell, it's more common that people from all backgrounds take public transit, including 'higher' class people. Of course exceptions and reasons exist.