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When you realize your NATO crush only likes you as a proxy
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So they knew the end result but still started the war as a an extra gig for US imperialists to make some quick bucks, and then reset Europe - Russia relationships to pre war.
I get the impression that they are completely detached from reality, and they expected Russia to just collapse within a few weeks of the war starting. Then they just kept hoping that Russia would run out of weapons, or that Russian army would crack, or that they could choke Russia economically somehow. The longer this went on the more they got trapped in their own lies, and now they've painted themselves into a corner and have no idea what to do about it.
What do you think about Russia Europe relations after war? Is Russia going to deliberately keep the trade relations low to let US suck Europe dry or they gonna forget their hostility and start exporting again?
I expect Russia will be open to dialog, but they will demand a new security architecture in Europe outside of NATO. It's also possible that Russia will try to pull countries like Hungary and Serbia into its sphere if economic situation in Europe continues to deteriorate.
It's really hard to say right now. Russia seems to be taking a pragmatic stance on that. We can see how they've been dealing with Turkey for example, where they continue cooperation even as Turkey keeps playing games. What I expect Russia to try to do is to break up NATO and EU by peeling countries off. Hungary is the obvious choice, and they might be able to get them to flip. France, Bulgaria, Slovakia, and Germany might decide that they've had enough as well. Maybe one option could be that China steps in to provide some security guarantees, and a new security framework outside of NATO is created. Ultimately, Russia's concern is with US and they don't really see individual European countries as any real threat.