Exactly. They say the threat is that the sub will be reopened and then counter the threat by... reopening it?

The sub is getting opened either way. The choice they have to make has nothing to do with whether the sub opens or not, it's about the principle of the protest. They're showing quite clearly that they never cared for that aspect. They just want the "i'ma good mod you guys, honest" rep. Cowards.

I came to the same conclusion in a post on a sub that was debating whether they should re-open permanently or not. I'll leave it to you to imagine how well it went over, but it should be added that this behavior doesn't only affect mods or power users; it's true of the userbase in general. People will latch onto anything they can in order to defend crossing their own picket line.

Reddit mods crave the “power” they get from donating their time and labor to a mega corp.

Well, if your choice is failing+personal loss vs. just failing, then which one would you expect most people to go for!?

Amazing news to have r/piracy here! Hopefully they have more liberty here and can talk openly

Off subject, but I just discovered I can't comment on kbin. Just when I thought I had the fediverse figured out.

It's kind of hilarious. For years the mods of /r/piracy have been walking on eggshells about what kinds of links and discussion are permitted there because they were afraid Reddit would shut them down at any moment. And now Reddit is tossing the mods that worked so hard to toe their line and forcing them open.

Yeah, that's quite confusing, you'd think they might not be exactly rushing to open one of the more legally complicated subs.

Likely they don't. It was probably sent to all indefinite blackout subs.

Because it’s all about numbers and they don’t care how they get them.

I’m not a frequent visitor of that subreddit so I’m not really informed about this, but isn’t this kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face? I get where you’re coming from, but there’s a few outcomes here, none of which are conducive to the longevity of communities like this:

• The community is investigated and determined to be in violation of the DMCA for some reason. This forces reddit to close it, but may also trigger a closer look into organized communities like this one.
• If the aforementioned reason is because of links obscured behind hashes (as pirate subreddits love to do as their workaround), this has far-reaching implications and would directly affect the communities on the fediverse or other websites in one way or another, as it would be proven to not be as effective as people seem to think it is.
• If the aforementioned reason is because of information regarding pirated content being hosted there, then that’s even worse, for obvious reasons, since they would be willing to file a DMCA for the mere mention of offending content.
• If nothing happens, then it was essentially a waste of time; the only way it wouldn’t be a waste of time is if there was a positive outcome. I don’t see one, personally.

Obviously companies can DMCA for whatever reason they want, but the entire idea of communities like this is to stay under the radar.

Maybe I’m completely off-base with what I’m saying; this was just a thought I was tossing around in my head while I was trying to sleep shortly after reading this comment. It just doesn’t seem terribly productive. The only part that could be somewhat impactful would be if the relevant investors became aware, but the fact of the matter is that reddit will bend ass-backwards for these people, and if they were to take issue with that subreddit, then it’s gone.

Almost like he's doing it on purpose...

Damn, you absolutely bodied spez lmao

I got removed within an hour. I didn't even had time to read it :D

Would it be possible to make a vote and ask the community if they want to stay closed? They are claiming mods should be like representatives and responding as if mods view themselves like lords. Show them a democratic excuse that you are only reflecting the community.

I got demoded by reddit admins though

Classic Prisoner's Dilemma.

Why "Vulcan" particularly? The star trek species, the Roman deity, or something else?