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I am interested in learning of his policies, what he said and did, state of the left movement in Belarus as well as position of the country on the world stage and in the eyes of the non-western countries.

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago

I would say he's the honest social-democrat.

Something that's hard to recognize, because historical examples are so rare. Western socialdemocracy has been just a bunch of opportunist imperialists right from the split by communists in 1914, and global south socialdemocracy is either just compradors or can't do shit because being couped or imperialized by west.

[-] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago

As far as I know he's responsible for a Belorussian transition to capitalism where a lot of the practices of the Soviet times where kept in place, it went through a process of liberalisation much like China did post-Deng, only that in a scenario where there is a lack of a strong communist party (maybe for the best, though, since it would likely be coup'd either by the US or Gorbachev's Russia). He has done what he could to maintain the national bourgeois in check and also able to remain in the anti-imperialist block.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From the Belarussian prespective....

3/10 because of his anti-west stance and cooperation with Russia. Other then preventing Belarus from becoming an American client state like Ukraine, pretty much everything else he has done is pure liberal/capitalist garbage, and Belarus has rotted under his leadership. He is also very right wing and his social policies are horrendous.

[-] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Jews were able to make the world remember [the Holocaust], and the whole world bows to them, being afraid of saying one wrong word to them

~ Alexander Lukashenko

The history of Germany is a copy of the history of Belarus. Germany was raised from ruins thanks to firm authority and not everything connected with that well-known figure Hitler was bad. German order evolved over the centuries and attained its peak under Hitler. This corresponds with our understanding of a presidential republic and the role of a president in it

~ Also Alexander Lukashenko

Doesn't really have anything to do with his policies, just make sure you factor in that he's a raging antisemite if you're deciding whether he's "based" or not

[-] juchebot88@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I don't support the sentiments voiced in these quotes, for which I would like to see more context, but we should also remember that he's allied with the Russian government in fighting genuine swastika-waving genocidal fascists (and the NATO alliance which backs them). Material reality, not opinions alone, are what makes one a fascist.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

You can still be anti-semetic and fight Nazis. Hence the current Russian narrative of "judeo-globalism", "Soros", and extreme anti-LGBT sentiment.

Also I will say that you are not missing any context with those statements. Lukashenko is a known anti-semite in Belarus.

[-] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think this is more complicated than a "enemy of my enemy is my friend" deal, Russia is finding an ally in Belarus because of their proximity to NATO. They don't exactly hold all the same ideological lines. That, and Russia isn't exactly fighting Nazism first, they're just fighting NATO encroachment and justifying it with the convenient fact that there happen to be Nazis in Ukraine to make the war sound good domestically and to make NATO look bad. Russia is just playing the self-preservation game like any other Capitalist country does.

Besides if they were actually against Nazism in every instance, they wouldn't be buddy buddy with Belarus.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know anything about Lushashenko but calling him an anti-semite over those two quotes show how right he was in the first one.

[-] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

So just to be clear, in the first quote, Lukashenko states that the Jews "made" the world remember the Holocaust, as if it wasn't something to remember in its own right, only something to be remembered after some kind of big Jewish campaign. A conspiracy, one might call it.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's one way to look at it.

Another way is: You can't say anything about Jews. If you say anything remotely negative about Jews you're immediately tagged as an anti-Semite.

I can hate Evangelicals, I can hate Christians, I can hate Muslims but if I hate Jews it's over for me.

[-] CPCsStrongestWumao@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On a scale of 10, he's around a 5 or 6 on basedeness

[-] Neptium@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago
[-] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

"market socialism" is when state owned

[-] FistOfTheRedStar@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

His attack on trade unions seem pretty unbased.

[-] mintopiasystem@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

i rate him revisionist dogshit out of ten

[-] RedMarsRepublic@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago

He said factory farmed cows 'should live in a palace!' and that it was 'like Auschwitz', basically 10/10 based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7TKZILMtwo

[-] mona_sly@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

How based do you think is suppressing protests, hunting down protesters and killing network connection in protest areas?

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