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I worked out a trade deal for someone to do some soldering for me. I had three devices that needed soldering, and they could keep one for themselves if they soldered the three of them for me. Today I discovered that they didn't even attempt the soldering, they fucked up all three of the devices, such that the soldering job can no longer be done by anyone, and they want me to compensate them for the time they wasted trying to fix them without soldering. I asked them to do the job, in trade for keeping one, because I am ill and my hands won't do fine work any more. I definitely don't want to pay them for not doing the job I asked, which I asked them to do because I couldn't afford to pay someone to do it. The job is still not done and can never be done now. Am I wrong to be angry with them? Do I have to be grateful and compensate them for their time that they wasted not doing what I asked them to do?

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[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

You’re overthinking this.

They want compensation you never agreed to. They didn’t do the job agreed to, so don’t get one of the broken devices either.

This sort of thing is why contracts evolved in the first place:

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

Technically OP and the guy doing the job did enter into contract with each other, just a verbal one. This type of law is centuries old.

[-] TwistedFox@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While that is true, the verbal contract stipulated non-monetary compensation on job completion. Job was never completed, so the contract was never fulfilled, and compensation is not owed. This is why repair depots have a minimum charge for technician time laid out in their pricing.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

He agreed to give him one of the items...

If he fucked up all three and now wants paid, give him on of the now nonrepairable ones and call it a day

[-] TwistedFox@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

they could keep one for themselves if they soldered the three of them for me.

According to this post, the payment was arranged to be if the soldering job was done. The post then goes on to say that not only did he not solder the parts, he damaged them so they cannot be soldered by anyone else.
The other person did not fulfill his part of the agreement, so he has no right to the compensation.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

If he fucked them up so bad no one can fix them...

What's the difference if OP gives him one?

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

What's the difference if OP gives him one?

Well, it's irrelevant to the question at hand, completely, but if we're talking about random unrelated shit, the here we go.

The difference is the worker is either an imbecile who dishonestly represented himself, or a dishonest scammer. Neither deserve anything; and why is that so hard to understand?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Because if OP is telling the truth, all three are no worthless.

So it literally doesn't matter if he gives him one.

I can only say this so many ways. I'm sorry I can't make it any simpler.

[-] Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

It does matter. You're promoting that doing a shitty job and poorly representing yourself deserves a reward, encouraging further shitty behaviour towards yourself and other people.

OP shouldn't give them anything, especially if @fsxylo@sh.itjust.works is right and the boards still have value.

[-] TwistedFox@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Because the person is demanding monetary compensation, not demanding one of the broken items. But also, he might be aiming to try to keep all 3 of them as a "compromise" as they might not be as broken as he is representing them to be.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds like they fucked them up on purpose to get one for free.

I'm betting the damage they did was not as unrepairable as OP thinks. It's a pretty common scam.

[-] TemporaryBoyfriend@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Uh, in what world does this guy think he doesn't owe you for the parts you gave him?

[-] Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

OP, you are totally allowed to be angry. You have good reason to from what I can read.

Don't compensate them. They never did their end of the bargain. If they react in frustration or anger, that is the fault of their poor emotional intelligence and I encourage you to focus on your own sanity. You can't fix them, but you might be able to do something with those boards. :)

Stay strong~

[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Dude.. You're getting played.

They were supposed to repair the 3 devices, but instead fucked them up? Obviously they owe YOU.

They're deflecting, and taking advantage of you.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you sure they can't be fixed? Try !soldering@lemmy.ca.

[-] Tired8281@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I got the parts back. They are wrecked, one is broken in half, and they are covered with solder drippings. Going to trash them, they weren't worth a lot to begin with, just gonna take the L. I didn't pay them, they seemed huffy about it but whatever, I don't have to see them again. Thanks for the advice all!

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