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[-] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 113 points 7 months ago

what the fuck is a "AI PC"?

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 65 points 7 months ago

They get to put a sticker on that inflates the value by $600, then fill it with spyware.

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

‘CApItALiSm BreEdS INnoVAtION’

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[-] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 12 points 7 months ago
[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago

Found the shareholder.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 55 points 7 months ago

It means “VC money now 🥺🥺”

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 15 points 7 months ago

Microsoft is chasing VC money now?

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 16 points 7 months ago

Not VC, more like hedge funds and institutional investors. But yes, all public companies work primarily for higher share prices, and then everything else. I've experienced a public US company paying more than a million USD to save 300k just so they can put out good articles about themselves that they kept promises to shareholders.

[-] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Branding. It's just saying it's capable of handling local models on copilot.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

If I have to deal with Blockchain cloud computing IoT bullshit as a software engineer, I want everyone else to feel my buzzword pain in the tech they use.

[-] cholesterol@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

The new 'VR Ready'

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I guess a PC with a graphics card?

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[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 80 points 7 months ago

Thus, Windows will again be instrumental in driving growth for the minimum memory capacity acceptable in new PCs.

I love that the primary driver towards more powerful hardware is Windows just bloating itself bigger and bigger. It's a grift in its own way, consumers are subsidizing the requirements for Microsoft's idiotic data processing. And MSFT is not alone in this, Google doing away with cookies also conveniently shifts away most ad processing from their servers into Chrome (while killing their competition).

[-] thesorehead@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Google doing away with cookies also conveniently shifts away most ad processing from their servers into Chrome (while killing their competition).

OOTL, what's going on here? Distributed processing like Folding@Home, but for serving ads to make Google more money?

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 16 points 7 months ago

They called it Federated Learning of Cohorts at one point. Instead of you sending raw activity data to Google servers and them running their models there, the model runs in Chrome and they only send back the ad targeting groups you belong to. All in the name of privacy of course.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Microsoft is desperate to regain the power they had in the 00s and is scrambling trying to find that killer app. At least this time they're not just copying apples homework.

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They either force it on everyone or bundle it in the enterprise package that businesses already pay for and then raise the price.

It never works, but maybe this time it will. I mean it won't... But maybe.

[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And maybe that's why it isn't working. They try too hard to persuade or force you, giving people icky feelings from the get go... and they try too little to just make a product that people want.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 7 months ago

At least it should result in less laptops being made with ridiculously small amounts of non upgradable RAM.

Requiring a large amount of compute power for AI is just stupid though. It will probably come in the form of some sort of dedicated AI accelerator that's not usable for general purpose computing.

[-] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 22 points 7 months ago

And remember that your data and telemetry are sent to Microsoft servers to train Copilot AI. You may also need to subscribe to some advanced AI features

[-] DontMakeMoreBabies@kbin.social 8 points 7 months ago

And that's when I'll start using Linux as my daily driver.

Honestly installing Ubuntu is almost idiot proof at this point.

[-] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I do agree with you, the obstacle is that there are many applications that are not available on Linux or they're not as powerful as on Windows. As for me is MS. Excel, many of my office clients use VBA in Excel spreadsheet to do calculations.

[-] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

At least we might have a finally viable replacement in Photoshop soon. GIMP is getting NDE, Krita might be getting foreground extraction tool at some point, and Pixellator might have better tools though it's NDE department is solid. The thing is all of them are missing something, but I'm betting on GIMP after CMYK_Student arrival to GIMP development.

I tried adding foreground selection based on guided selection, but was unable to fix noises on in-between selection and was unable to build Krita. We would have Krita with foreground selection if it weren't for that.

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[-] frankpsy@lemm.ee 32 points 7 months ago

Apple: what's wrong with just 8GB RAM?

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

Yeah, and solder it onto the board while you're at it! Who ever needs to upgrade or perform maintenance anyways?

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[-] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 31 points 7 months ago

"Wanna see me fill entire landfills with e-waste due to bullshit minimum requirements?"

"Wanna see me do it again?"

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 7 points 7 months ago

All I can think of:

Hi kids, do you like violence? Wanna see me stick nine-inch nails through each one of my eyelids? Wanna copy me and do exactly like I did? Try 'cid and get fucked up worse than my life is?

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[-] furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 7 months ago

no ai ain't gonna come into my pc

[-] Shurimal@kbin.social 15 points 7 months ago

Unless it's locally hosted, doesn't scan every single file on my storage and doesn't send everything I do with it to the manufacturer's server.

[-] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Personally I really want it to but only locally run AI like lamma or whatever it's called

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[-] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They are making for a long time now, a massive slow effort to make end users finally migrate to Linux (and I’m a whole life windows guy)

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Low amount of ram becomes the AI detox mechanism of this century.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 14 points 7 months ago

Great, so it'll take AI to set 16GB as minimum.

I still shudder that there are machines still being sold with 8GB RAM, that's just barely enough.

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[-] query@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

AI PC sounds like something that will be artificially personal more than anything else.

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[-] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Makes sense, 16GB is sort of the new "normal" although 8GB is still quite enough for everyday casual use. "AI PCs" being a marketing term just like "AI" itself.

[-] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Opening excel and outlook on a win11 PC brings you to almost 16GB of memory used. I don't know how anybody is still selling computers with 8GB of ram.

[-] NoRodent@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

That doesn't work even as a hyperbole. I literally just opened an Excel spreadsheet with 51192 rows (I had Outlook already open) and those two programs still only take 417 MB of RAM combined. Meanwhile Firefox is at 2.5 GB. Yes, my total RAM currently used is 13.8 GB but I have 64 GB of RAM installed and you should know that generally the more RAM you have, the more of it gets utilized by the system (this is true for all modern OS, not just Windows) which is a good thing, because it means better performance, since you can cache more things in RAM that would otherwise needed to be read from disk. Unused RAM is wasted RAM. So even if one computer uses 16 GB of RAM for some relatively simple tasks, it doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't run or grind to a halt on a system with less RAM.

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[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

Uh... No, it doesn't. 8GB is definitely tight these days, but for simple word processing, email, and spreadsheet usage it still works fine.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 5 points 7 months ago

Why in the hell do those programs take up so much space?

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[-] irdc@derp.foo 5 points 7 months ago

Ah good. Now I know what specs not to buy.

[-] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

You have fun sticking to ms running your 8gb of ram, that'll show em!

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