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Armin Papperger, CEO of the German arms concern Rheinmetall, has responded to Russian authorities that have threatened to view the concern?s future plant in Ukraine a ?legitimate target? of the Russian Federation.

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[–] avater@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

don't fuck with our german industry...if we want build tanks in ukraine, we will build tanks in ukraine and no cunt in the kreml will stop that.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"Papperger said that Rheinmetall would not abandon its plans to set up a plant in Ukraine, and that they planned to protect it from attacks with air defence systems of their own manufacture"

This real? I wonder how far they'll set up their perimeters. Maybe other factories will follow this trend. Self- defense is key.

[–] Relo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Time will tell if they only say this in order to raise their stock value.

[–] Waldhuette@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It would be the ultimate advertisement for their products if they show how well they protected that factory in Ukraine.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

ultimate advertisement. It's Perfect PR. Service and protection 10 years guaranteed.

It is strange when you actually picture such a factory with all the equipment.

There is alot to be said about this development, politically and militarily, but also, like you said, its good PR.

[–] bumbly@readit.buzz 9 points 2 years ago

Hmmm Russia targeting a German company. I think that'll play out well for them.

[–] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Papperger is just as coked up as Putin. RM produces weapons that can take down russian drones and helicopters, but they lack weapons against higher and faster flying missiles.

Unless they suddenly, magically learned how to produce Patriot or IRIS-T SLM, they can't keep that promise with certainty.

[–] Waldhuette@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think you are not really up to date on what stuff Rheinmetall produces.

They do not just produce CIWS equivalent systems but also targeting systems, laser based effectors and surface-to-air missile systems that directly integrate into all those systems.

[–] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think you are not really up to date on what stuff Rheinmetall produces.

I have this strong feeling that I in fact do.

surface-to-air missile systems

In that regard, RM only has the the SkyKnight C-RAM (developed by the UAE) to offer, which is still in the development phase - and this is still only SHORAD.

RM has nothing in its portfolio to offer medium range protection.

[–] Waldhuette@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And why would they need anything medium range ? they are not trying to cover large areas,

[–] PinkOwls@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Because a tank factory is a strategic target which you would use ballistic/"hypersonic" missiles for. Well aside from the propaganda value that a German tank factory was destroyed. You can safely assume that the Russians are going to use their better stuff for that factory instead of firing at civilian buildings or train stations with refugees.

[–] Relo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Don't tell RM investors.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

*Prigozhin to offer his services for security guards*

[–] Hank@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the most non credible take I heard all month and I'm all for it.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was obviously meant as a joke but later I remembered that he was actually willing to sell out Russian positions to the Ukrainians and now I wouldn't be that shocked if he actually tried it.

[–] Hank@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

3000 black Wagner troops of Rheinmetall.

[–] Blade9732@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think Rhinemetall could field their own army, large enough to defeat what's left of the Russians.

[–] Daze@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Let's hold off on that for now maybe; I'm not ready for the Corporation Wars yet 😩

[–] AshDene@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Did you know that Pepsi briefly owned 17 submarines, a cruiser, a frigate, and a destroyer?

Edit: On less of a technicality, the East India Company had something like 250k troops back in 1824.

[–] Ooops@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What do you mean by "not ready yet"? Our timeline is already 23 years behind in regards to extraterritoriality of multinational corporations...