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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by noctisatrae@beehaw.org to c/chat@beehaw.org

All this « editorial » content is so unnerving with so much shit happening in the world. It does not feel like a safe place if you doomscroll every time you browse it…

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[-] luciole@beehaw.org 26 points 6 months ago

The weekly "How's it going" thread is always sweet; I understand what you mean. I wonder if a platform built roughly like Reddit can properly support sharing on a more personal level though. The tools are never neutral.

[-] millie@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

That's a good point. Part of why reddit became what it did probably is just the nature of the system. Points-based threads with subthreads, are definitely, like, a specific strategy for generating a body of content. It's atomizing. It leads to direct replies to a specific person, which seems to lead to more fighting, and it commodifies posts into rated point values.

Of course people are snarky on Reddit and Lemmy, it's literally a system where you reply directly to someone and everyone rates everything you say.

Compare that with a forum system where it's just a single chronological thread and I can kind of see how it's more conflict-oriented and less community-oriented.

So if reddit-style social media is the social media of bickering for points, and Twitter-style social media is centered around cults of personality, what could preserve that community feeling and linearity of forums in a fediverse package?

How do you scale a linear community?

[-] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 11 points 6 months ago

I mean, I can narrate about the 20 Windows Server 2008 machines that I'm going to have to bump up to Server 2019. But, depending on how it all goes, I might just spoil the mood even more. :D

[-] noctisatrae@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

Please narrate lol! Your life is cool, maybe you can give a few anecdotes here and there :((( I don’t understand why people think they’re not interesting

[-] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago

Anecdote #1: Don't put yourself in a position where you've got a bunch of servers that you have to upgrade from 2008 to 2019.

Anecdote #2: The warnings against doing in-place Windows Server upgrades can't stop you if you don't read them.

[-] noctisatrae@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

What are the benefits of Windows server against super snappy Linux servers managed with docker or just an instance on a cloud provider?

[-] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

In our case, there are a bunch of benefits and reasons:

  • Active Directory (plus certificate services, but I don't personally touch those at all)
  • A lot of our software here in healthcare is legacy stuff that works on Windows and only on Windows
  • My boss is used to Windows and is far too busy and old to want to learn something different
  • Windows Server is generally okay and comes with some handy management features built-in

We do have some systems that are on Linux (Photon OS for VMware stuff, a couple of vendor-implemented Ubuntu systems). We don't really have much to do with these system, though. I'm the only one here who's familiar with *nix stuff, and while I've tried implementing stuff like our Intranet server on Ubuntu Server, I eventually moved over to Windows Server with IIS because it was just easier for my coworkers to access and use.

As for containerization, we have so many servers that do one thing and only one thing. Docker would be awesome, but it's sadly just really not a thing in our slice of the healthcare and IT sector. We do plan to start moving to a hybrid cloud model with Azure, but that probably won't be for a few years.

[-] Caliper@beehaw.org 0 points 6 months ago

LOL. The second one sounds awfully familiar. Not with Windows, but I’ve had my own cases where I didn’t read before breaking. How did it work out in the end?

[-] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

Going okay so far. We've had a lot going on this week, so I didn't want to touch any of our critical systems for fear of adding even more shit to the plate for my coworkers. The non-critical system upgrades went smoothly. You can't upgrade from 2008 R2 straight to 2019, so I do an intermediary upgrade to 2012 first (hooray, the Windows 8 start screen!) VMware's mouse driver seems to break during the upgrade, and my RDP doesn't like connecting to 2012 servers, so I have to navigate by keyboard to the file explorer to start the upgrade from 2012 to 2019. There's probably a better way to do this, but I can't be bothered to find it.

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 9 points 6 months ago

We love to see more good natured content, but unfortunately asking for more doesn't tend to change the behaviors of others. If you have ideas, or want to contribute content in this way, it would be greatly appreciated!

[-] comicallycluttered@beehaw.org 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lol, I forgot how busy this instance can be because I blocked both of the news communities last year (and I think one or two others, but I can't remember which and don't care enough to look) and set up keyword filters in my app to never see posts with certain words or phrases in their title.

Thanks to that, the majority of my experience isn't particularly negative. Admittedly, there's a lot less content, but I don't really care all that much.

[-] tiago@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

What app do you use? Jerboa doesn't allow keyword filtering AFAIK

[-] comicallycluttered@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

Eternity (formerly Infinity) and Sync.

Both have options for filtering, thankfully.

[-] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 7 points 6 months ago

‘Wracking’.

Just sayin’.

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 8 points 6 months ago

In the future please don't be dismissive. We have many non-native English speakers on the internet. Providing them feedback that they are saying something incorrectly so that they can correct themselves in the future is feedback that can be helpful, but doing so in a polite way is much nicer than a condescending one 💜

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

I would even go a step further and say that unless the mistake fundamentally changes the meaning of what they are saying, a correction is not necessary. English is pretty fluid grammar and spelling wise, and sticking to strict rules is not necessary outside academia or professional settings

[-] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

Language descriptivism, it's the stuff plants crave!

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago
[-] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

Electrolytes, the stuff English professors crave.

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago

From the sidebar on the home page: As a news aggregator and a social media outlet, with a focus on being a safe and accepting space, we strive to create a positive social impact.

This is a set of goals with inherent tension.

As one of the moderators of !usnews and someone who started in print journalism in the '90s, I can assure you this is not a new problem even without the impact portion. There are a varying number of steps from assigning a story to having it be aggregated on Beehaw, none of which we have any control over (nor, I can safely say, would any of us want to), and readers always want more "good" news regardless of platform.

If some of our news communities are upsetting you, removing those from your default feed is likely your best option.

[-] ted@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago

I'm ok with an article, but I much prefer it when someone accompanies it with a discussion in the body or comments.

[-] tiago@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago

When the migration started on early June, the content on Lemmy was mostly organic (people writing posts/requests and actual discussion).

Now, a few months later, it is mostly links to articles in mostly every instance. I wonder how many are bots flooding the human voices.

The communties I've come to follow are good, but not numerous.

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