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What normies see when someone posts here claiming Discovery isn't canon
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It's Star Trek!
You just made an enemy for life
Star Trek isn't Star Trek, but on occasion you may find that it's Star Trek.
The whole idea of "Canon" is a comforting self delusion and lie.
Let it go. Enjoy what's in front of you. Stop getting distracted by things that don't really matter to the story at hand. That's how TOS did it.
Let it go?
I love that song
I mean there's nothing wrong with your second point about enjoying what you like and not getting distracted by minutiae, buuuut unlike other franchises Star Trek quite literally does have an official canon:
That would be the lie part.
Wake up sheeple Big Trek and Wikipedia are lying to you!
Canon
Ah, yes, the word that separates which made-up stories are more real than other made-up stories!
YES! Perfect description! That should be the definition of the term.
TOS is underrated
ALL Star Trek is underrated.
Star Trek should have been the property that influences the entire culture of the United States of America, like how Doctor Who influences the culture of the United Kingdom. Instead, US culture is based around Star Wars and Star Trek is regulated to a bunch of punchlines that normal people know just enough to understand.
This is a hot take out of, like, 1979. The general public hasn't had this relationship to Trek in a long ass time.
Star Wars is a story about how America is bad and fascism can be defeated through the power of taoist philosophy. That doesn't sound like the currently dominant American value system to me
I honestly don't care
Grumble grumble fuckin' Klingons grumble grumble continuity issues grumble grumble.
I do like that they sort of explained the Klingon Empire was getting really into genetic experimentation. It kind of ties in the DS9 tribbles episode as seen here.
The simple "We do not discuss it with outsiders" line is great. Which actually makes me want to watch more DS9...
Anyway... some of the continuity issues are explained away in the second season? Sort of?
It's still my least watched trek. I've even watched more of the Animated Series than Discovery.
Care to expand on what specific continuity issues you’re concerned about?
The main one would be, in 53 years of Trek before Discovery, Spock never mentioned a sister.
Which is mostly of explained at the end of Season 2 of Discovery.
If you just noped out in Season 1, which a lot of the more conservative sort of trekie did, then you'd miss that.
That's not a continuity error, that's an aspect of Spock's character.
• In "Amok Time" Kirk learned that Spock was engaged to T'Pring, and he also comments that Spock never mentioned how important his family was after learning that T'Pau would be officiating the ceremony.
• In "Journey to Babel" Kirk suggests to Spock that he might want to travel to the surface of Vulcan to spend time with his parents, while Sarek and Amanda are standing right in front of them. Kirk learns that Spock's father is one of the most well regarded diplomats in the Federation.
• In "Yesteryear" when Spock returns from this journey to the Vulcan of his childhood, he tells Kirk that the only thing that changed was that a pet died. He doesn't mention that it was his childhood pet that died protecting him.
• In "Star Trek: The Final Frontier" Kirk learns that Spock had a half brother, Sybok. At that point they've known one another for 22 years.
• In "Sarek" Picard mentions having met Sarek at Sarek's son's wedding. What son? Spock? If it was Spock, there's no mention of him having a wife when he later shows up in the "Unification" two parter, or in the Kelvin films. Another, as of yet, unnamed member of Spock's family?
It would be a bigger continuity issue if Spock had mentioned a sister.
It would be a bigger continuity issue if Spock had mentioned a sister.
Wow this is a great point. Spock never mentions his family until essentially forced at phaserpoint.
I noped out in season 1 because I didn't think Discovery was woke enough
Worf's Klingon prosthetics literally changed between season 1 and seasons 2-7 of TNG. This obviously raises serious continuity issues about whether seasons 2-7 of TNG are even canon...
https://screenrant.com/star-trek-worf-tng-klingon-makeup-change-reason/
Give him a break, he was still in gene therapy for the augment virus
Worf went through puberty.
Perhaps today is a good day for my voice to break!
Nobody hates Star Trek as much as Star Trek fans.
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I'll never stop hoping for more new Whomp.
I like to imagine that Discovery takes place in the Kelvinverse rather than the main timeline.
There would be actual canon issues if that was the case as opposed to the mostly imagined ones that people bring up.
10/10 characters and casting, but wtf is going on with the writing
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My only complaint is the time wasted crying as a Klingon bird of prey decloaks behind them.
Which episode was that?
I've always been of the opinion that something is cannot if the owners say it is. Doesn't mean I like it but I accept it. This is coming from the person who doesn't like that they don't respect ship names and registrations in Picard S3. Excelsior is NCC-2000 (insert Letter) not 90-odd thousand and something! /Rant
I have to disagree with the first sentence because Disney swept away all the extended universe canon when they took over Star Wars and I refuse to acknowledge that Kyle Katarn isn't canon anymore.
Star Trek Enterprise is the *only * canon Star Trek show.
The Kelvin Timeline follows it and mentioned Admiral Archer's prized beagle.
The Original Series, The Next Generation, Voyager, Deep Space Nine, Prodigy, Picard, and Lower Decks had their canon overwritten by time travel from the movies and retroactive continuity. Discovery, while also a prequel and giving some nods to ENT in later seasons, is now in a branched off timeline of the future. Star Trek Strange New Worlds also treats Enteprise as canon (and give homages to it), but is also branched out in a different timeline now with what they changed from Khan's origin.
this post was submitted on 14 Feb 2024
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