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[-] tal@lemmy.today 13 points 7 months ago

Between this and the Moscow theater hostage crisis...and I guess the Bataclan attacks in France...people seem to target theaters in other countries.

But the US seems much more concerned about sporting events being targeted in the US. I don't hear about security restrictions on theaters.

I guess a sporting event can have a lot more people, and if televised might be higher visibility. But I'd think that any vulnerability would persist across national boundaries.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 7 months ago

Terrorists are always going to attack whatever has the most convenient combination of lax security and number of people for them. They don't go for cultural venues because they loath theater, they go for them because there's less things that go wrong for them.

The best governments can do is to have more security in places with more people - like sports events.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, they could actually govern for the people and leave no sane person any reason to do bad things...

... but then since when has government been in the business of improving the commoner's life?

[-] plistig@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, the average terrorist is extremely rational, and would never do attacks if their needs were met. Simple needs like killing everyone who does not worship their god exactly the same way they do.

Consume less tiktok. Can't you see that it rots your brain?

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 months ago

More often than not, terrorists (as opposed to insurgents) come from the middle class or above. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/24/opinions/sri-lanka-terrorists-educated-middle-class-bergen/index.html covers some of those cases and explains the dynamics behind it.

[-] apis@beehaw.org 6 points 7 months ago

Outside of the US, soccer fixtures are the biggest sporting events (certainly in Europe & Russia).

Due to a long history of violent football hooliganism, there is already elevated security around these events & international intelligence coordination preceding them.

Additionally, it is usually very difficult to obtain tickets unless you have connections to a club.

These factors would make them trickier targets than lesser sporting events or concerts.

Differences in transport access to sporting stadia & theatres in different countries may also play a role. Terrorists naturally take logistics into account.

And maybe the US just picks up more chatter about sporting events & not much about theatres?

But yeah, broadly either type of target is possible anywhere.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

Wasn't it a yearnor two agobthat a guy shot dozens of people attending a concert in Vegas with a sniper rifle?

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So, are the terrorists one or more of these:

  • islamic terrorists from one of the Caucasus "republics"
  • disgruntled vets
  • separatists
  • FSB agents

I'd figure it's some IS offshoot, although regardless of who actually did it the FSB will likely blame it on the Chechens as is tradition. Especially if they did it themselves

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 17 points 7 months ago

Don’t you know anything, it’s ukrainian gay nazi terrorists funded by the west

[-] SleepyWheel@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

Literally every comment on rt.com right now, except these Nazis are also somehow Jewish, apparently

[-] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

except these Nazis are also somehow Jewish, apparently

The guardian did an interesting piece on that:

The form of Russian fascism Dugin and Prokhanov defended is like the central versions of European fascism – explicitly antisemitic. As Snyder writes, “… if Prokhanov had a core belief, it was the endless struggle of the empty and abstract sea-people against the hearty and righteous land-people. Like Adolf Hitler, Prokhanov blamed world Jewry for inventing the ideas that enslaved his homeland. He also blamed them for the Holocaust.” ... . ... By claiming that the aim of the invasion is to “denazify” Ukraine, Putin appeals to the myths of contemporary eastern European antisemitism – that a global cabal of Jews were (and are) the real agents of violence against Russian Christians and the real victims of the Nazis were not the Jews, but rather this group. Russian Christians are targets of a conspiracy by a global elite, who, using the vocabulary of liberal democracy and human rights, attack the Christian faith and the Russian nation. Putin’s propaganda is not aimed at an obviously skeptical west, but rather appeals domestically to this strain of Christian nationalism.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin-ukraine-attack-antisemitism-denazify

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

ISIS has claimed credit for the attack, then again they'll take credit for anything if it's big enough.

[-] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago

Sounds like Elon Musk.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Several gunmen in combat fatigues burst into a big concert hall in Moscow on Friday and fired automatic weapons at the crowd, killing and injuring an unspecified number of people, Russian media said.Russian news reports said that the assailants also used explosives, causing a massive blaze at the Crocus City Hall on the western edge of Moscow.

Video posted on social media showed huge plumes of black smoke rising over the building.Russia’s state RIA Novosti news agency reported that at least three people in combat fatigues fired weapons.

The state Tass news agency also reported the shooting.Russian media reports said that riot police units were sent to the area as people were being evacuated

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