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An old post from Caroline Ellison's tumblr, since deleted.

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[-] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 25 points 7 months ago

EA is not a religion. Anyway, here are some pros / cons to marrying outside the religion.

...the less committed end of the EA spectrum (do you sneak dairy products when no one’s looking? fantasize about owning a yacht?)

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a yacht to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

[-] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This starts out 100% indistinguishable from an April Fools post to the point where I had to check the archive date.

Actually looking back is maybe is satire in that annoying half-serious way (check out the nonsense hyperlinks destinations where the "humor" is a bit more obvious)

Also was I just shamed by someone who was in the environmentally horrifying bitcoin industry for keeping dry milk in my cupboard? No thank you.

[-] titotal@awful.systems 16 points 7 months ago

This definitely reads like the tedious "april fools" posts where you can tell they are actually 90% serious but want the cover of a joke.

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[-] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago

Also was I just shamed by someone who was in the environmentally horrifying bitcoin industry for keeping dry milk in my cupboard? No thank you.

For the win!

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

Come on, this is obvious satire, it is basically page from EA talking about 10.000 hours shit and find replacing a few words. Even the notes call it out as satire.

Of course satire is dumb, as it always is a signal towards the incrowd and a lot of the times backfires spectacularly (see starship troopers the movie (the book does the other thing, it is intended as serious, but the arguments are so bad that you can read it as 'this is the story of a dumb failson who gets more and more taken in by propaganda, as he fails to see (or intentionally fails to see, which is part of the book re the whole hitting Zim in the face thing, which only 'occurs' after the guy admits he did it, and not when Zim is walking around with a huge black eye) how he is being manipulated and the system is being used to get rid of people smarter than him by moving them into more dangerous warzones). Anyway back to the movie, intended as a satire of fascist militarism, but now constantly smugly repeated by actual fascists/far right bs mongers). It always amazes me a bit that the Rationalists don't talk about how dumb it is to use satire more. (vs all their other meta level stuff about how people disagree and discuss things and who should and should not be allowed to speak) I think it is probably because satire can be so fun, and it is intellectually rewarding to get it while people you dislike don't get it. Sorry, this rant was sponsored by Helldiverse (im leaving that typo in)! Democracy!

[-] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago

I mean maybe if their serious beliefs weren't all so absurd I'd have an easier time distinguishing those from satire absurd beliefs 🤷‍♀️

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago

What you don't think the rokos basilisk or becoming a billionaire to steal from the common people to give to the underpants gnomes is a good idea?

(I was wondering randomly, SBF tried to pull a 'but im so ethical, I meant so well' in his trial, did he actually give money to good causes, or was that still the step after 2:??? of his master plan?)

[-] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

ponzi-money-spending.docx:

  1. A $35 million Bahamas penthouse office including private chef and pharmacist
  2. Celebrity TV ads and the FTX arena
  3. Private jets, real estate, luxury cars, and a yacht
  4. $100 million between both US political parties, other political donations (this story looks wild, haven't read it yet)
  5. VIP parties to rub shoulders with the rich, famous, and politically connected.
  6. Donations to various EA groups, as well as some guy writing questions for prediction markets
  7. Donations to museums, universities
  8. Unfortunately the $200k donation to Rajalakshmi Children Foundation never went through before FTX had a teensie liquidity issue.
  9. Gifts for his own family (how sweet :)

Overall the reporting on this is pretty scattered. I didn't find any one article that covered every knowable donation.

He certainly wasn't truly invested in criming for the good of the world (as long as you don't count ponzi victims as part of the world); because if he was he'd have run a much tighter ship.

He cultivated an image of scruffy philanthropist uninterested in worldly things, and for some reason the media ate this up. Meanwhile he was making conscious decisions to keep his criminal enterprise going as long as possible so he could keep living a life of nerdy luxury before it all came crashing down.

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[-] GorillasAreForEating@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If Caroline Ellison hadn't been in an actual relationship with a "high net-worth individual" I would have said it was just straightforward satire, but given the context I think she's using mask of irony to pretend she isn't revealing her true self.

Her words may be satirical, but her actions were more like "this but unironically".

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[-] swlabr@awful.systems 20 points 7 months ago

Given that Ellison star-witnessed her ex into >200000 hours in the clink, I dread to think of what might happen to the person that marries her

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 42 points 7 months ago

tired: polyamory on a basis of mutual love
wired: neoreactionary harem with stack ranking

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 15 points 7 months ago

neoreactionary harem with stack ranking

Please don’t remind me about my miserable time on dating apps.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 16 points 7 months ago

we told you, urbit is not a dating app!

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 11 points 7 months ago

Counterpoint: it’s not not a dating app

[-] self@awful.systems 12 points 7 months ago

oh fuck there’s definitely an urbit dating app isn’t there

these weirdos always use their fucked up platforms to implement insular dating apps

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago

You’ve probably just spoken it into existence, friend

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago

JWZ once said that every platform eventually evolves into being able to send email and allowing its users to flirt and hook up. I dunno if Urbit has reached that stage.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 7 months ago

It is not? The search for 'what are we actually going to use this for?' continues.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago

the only functionality is a text forum, so it almost certainly is, yeah

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 7 months ago

counterpoint: every form of communication can be made into a dating app if you're horny enough

[-] self@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

making a bunch of typos because my hands are too sweaty to operate the Morse code paddle

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

people would try to pick each other up over ham radio and have others break in to remind them that a large portion of the globe could hear them

[-] self@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

“radio amateurs are waiting on your call. come play my lord”

god I’m imagining how this all must have went given the personalities of some of the radio hams I’ve known

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[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

i'm 100% sure this happened but like, in interbellum

also, there's MGM for that, or iambic key if you're a purist. or some digimodes can send plaintext which is basically primitive and slow chat

[-] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

I know someone that met their long-term partner in the chat of words with friends.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago

i met my wife on netgoth IRC, so

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[-] pja@awful.systems 14 points 7 months ago

neoreactionary harem with stack ranking

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago

straight out of Caroline's tumblr

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

That’s fair, us mutual love and respect polyamorists are old and boring.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago

ya know how the failure mode of polyamory is when the cis straight guys try running things? yeah, welcome to rationalism

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Oh I’ve been to that event before. Angry lesbians came to the rescue then. Unfortunately I don’t think any of us want to deal with rationalists. Maybe they could get some angry bi ladies, I hear they do in a pinch.

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago

acatinulthar reblogged this from nihilsupernum and added:

I think that this is probably a parody but it honestly sounds like excellent life advice.

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