NSW won’t ban gas in new homes as premier declares ‘I don’t need another complication’ : australia

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

It's more that at a certain point of low usage, it's simply not worth the fixed cost of putting in all the pipes.

From the article:

Minns said the move away from gas connections in new homes in NSW was “largely led by economics” – insisting there were “significant savings” to be had in fully electric homes.

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Even if the fixed cost was cheaper, it would be idiocy to continue installing it. Gas is going away, and it's only going to get less competitive as electrification takes hold.

It's similar to installing new copper during the Coalition's NBN debacle, instead of just installing new fibre.

[-] emmanuel_car@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Oh, so we’ll get gas to the node then?

[-] prime_factor@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't be surprised if Jemena offers incentives for gas, especially in captive markets such as rentals.

There's no incentive for the landlord to install appliances with low operating costs, so why not take advantage of it.

[-] guidedlight@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

65% of residential gas connections are in Victoria, not NSW.

[+] Whirlybird@aussie.zone -8 points 1 year ago

insisting there were “significant savings” to be had in fully electric homes.

Not for the home owner, that's for sure.

[+] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world -18 points 1 year ago

I have trouble believing gas stoves give off that much emissions.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

No belief required, just read the studies.

https://rmi.org/gas-stoves-health-climate-asthma-risk/

[-] supercheesecake@aussie.zone 31 points 1 year ago

But what if they feel like it can’t be true?

[-] yesterdayshero@aussie.zone 17 points 1 year ago

It isn't just about emissions though is it? It's a non-renewable as well.

[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not entirely true. You can run a home bio digester in a sealed unit pretty cheaply. Feeding it compost and producing biogas (a mostly methane mix) at home that can be piped to appliances. Probably more upkeep than most people are up for. But if managed well, it can be a very ecological option. There are also ways this can be done at large scale with municipal organic waste.

Fairly extensive history of biogas use here: LINK

[-] yesterdayshero@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

That's not what's being discussed in the article, nor what's being connected in new home builds, nor what's being done at a large scale in NSW. So no, the gas supply being discussed isn't renewable.

[-] amzd@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

It’s not just the emissions that comes from the stove directly. You need kilometers of gas pipes to service homes which can all form leaks or get punctured by eg road works.

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Haven't been to one of Dave's barbees.

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