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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 183 points 1 year ago (15 children)

In an interview with the Journal, Neuralink's first patient, 29-year-old Noland Arbaugh, opened up about the roller-coaster experience. "I was on such a high and then to be brought down that low. It was very, very hard," Arbaugh said. "I cried." He initially asked if Neuralink would perform another surgery to fix or replace the implant, but the company declined, telling him it wanted to wait for more information.

Neuralink isn’t just treating humans like guinea pigs, they’re treating them like disposable guinea pigs.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You cherry-picked the first part of that paragraph. The end goes like this:

Arbaugh went on to say that he has since recovered from the initial disappointment and continues to have hope for the technology.

And then the next part of his statement is found in the following paragraph:

"I thought that I had just gotten to, you know, scratch the surface of this amazing technology, and then it was all going to be taken away," he added. "But it only took me a few days to really recover from that and realize that everything I’ve done up to that point was going to benefit everyone who came after me.” He also said that "it seems like we’ve learned a lot and it seems like things are going in the right direction."

Of course, the goal here is not to have an honest assessment of what happened. . .but to simply choose what we want to further our hatred (justified, IMO) of Musk.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

None of that concerns Neuralink’s treatment of him—just his process of learning to live with it.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could actually read the article. The guy is glad to have helped make some one else's life better. He doesn't have brain damage and he is not dead nor is he worse off.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh boy he's a currently happy disposable guinea pig, that makes it all better!

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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Neuralink, owned by controversial billionaire Elon Musk, believes it can prevent thread movement in the next patient by simply implanting the fine wires deeper into brain tissue. The company is planning on—and the FDA has reportedly signed off on—implanting the threads 8 millimeters into the brain of the second trial participant rather than the 3 mm to 5 mm depth used in Arbaugh's implantation.

Yeah, "just shove it in deeper" sounds like a brilliant plan.

Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't, but if I was that second patient I wouldn't exactly be feeling super confident about their approach.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah, “just shove it in deeper” sounds like a brilliant plan.

Does your past experience in brain surgery suggest that this might be a bad idea?

They're volunteers with next to nothing to lose. This isn't some healthy person who just wants to play angry birds with their mind. They're getting an experimental device planted into their brain. I'm sure they're aware of the risks.

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You'd think somewhere amongst the literal thousands of animals they maimed and killed, they'd have figured out how to prevent a simple mechanical issue like "the electrodes won't stay in place"

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[–] Juice64@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man I deleted my account because I didn’t want Musk involved in my newsfeed. I can’t imagine giving that fool direct access to my brain.

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[–] Tixanou@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] FlickeringScreens@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

"All Hail Elon"

[–] Yttra@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

There really is a Spongebob gif for everything, isn't there...

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All hardware becomes legacy hardware in time. Even if we assume they're eventually able to deliver on all those great big shiny promises, I'd rather not have to schedule an outpatient surgery just to keep up on emails. Pocket touchscreens being practically mandatory is bad enough...

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Someone paralyzed from the neck down for whom this enables the use of computers, which they before couldn't do, probably would rather have the outdated model than none

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro, just a few more disabled people sacrificed to the machine and I swear we’ll get it right! Move fast, break things! Technology always good!

Everyone like a week and a half ago pitching a fit over me saying that this is an unethical way to treat disabled people can go fuck themselves, lol.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The dude is fine and actually pretty lucky. Its sad that it stopped working but its not like he died or something.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Imagine when they put ads directly into your brain.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or Musk decides that you don't need some part of your brain. Or worse, rents it out as server space.

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[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

!unix_surrealism@lemmy.sdf.org

A little glimps how it could be…

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop letting this shit head do what ever he wants!

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I almost want to work there just to know exactly how it all went down. Plus who knows maybe I could help.

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a world we live in, huh?

We've got corporations who've successfully contaminated the world with their waste in a systematic fashion.

We've got corporations who've blindsided the political system.

We've got corporations who've blindsided affordable living.

We've got corporations who've given us a filtered and artificial companion in AI.

And now we've got a company that is actively seeking ways possible to ruin your way of being and living through chip implanting.

Enjoy the world, people.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

First we had piles of monkeys, now piles of paralyzied people.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

Relax, the guy is fine.

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[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure wtf they expected to happen when they aren't addressing the core problem with neural interfaces. Fix scar tissue buildup around the electrodes or GTFO

[–] ozoned@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

In other words

Neuralink to implant 2nd human with brain chip as 85% of first one failed.

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