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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why is there an airplane in the water?

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’s actually Andrew Ryan’s son.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Would you kindly take this golf club.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago
[–] drem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There were multiple videos covering this plane crash, here is one:

Cessna Engine Failure and Ditching in Ocean, Filmed From Inside (HD)

[–] kspatlas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm assuming the airplane is fucked and they had to ditch it in the water. He's wearing an emergency floatation vest.

[–] Awkwardly_Frank@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Remember kids, according to an FAA review of accidents, no type of water ditching has lower than an eighty percent survivability rating. So putting it in the drink is always an option.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not really sure what "water ditching" means but I assume that's any time the airplane ends up in the water instead of on land?

If that's a case, then there's definitely the type of water ditching where the plane angles into the water at full speed, and I don't think that's gonna have 80%

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think ditching implies some control over the aircraft, versus straight crashing.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe. Can anyone illuminate the 80% statistic? I'd like to know what it actually means.

EDIT: Love when I ask a good-faith question and it gets downvotes because someone answered it.

[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Not maybe, yes. Thats what it means. "Water ditching" is a common colloquial name for an "emergency water landing" which is a type of emergency landing. A plane doing a nose dive straight into the water is not an emergency landing. That's just a run of the mill crash.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_landing

The US forest service says it's 90% but I'm not sure where they get that number from either.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5139786.pdf

Flight instructor here: "ditching" is the technical term for landing a land plane on water. Here's the procedure from the Pilots Operating Handbook of a Cessna 172S:

[–] titus_w_blotter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure by "type of ditching" OP means the water conditions. Ditching near the beach is often safer a roadway landing. The least safe is ditching in rough seas in the middle of the ocean, but even that has a surprisingly high survival rate. Pilots don't always know this, and sometimes give up, not knowing that if they glide the airplane carefully down to the water, their chances of living are pretty good.

[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

then there's definitely the type of water ditching where the plane angles into the water at full speed, and I don't think that's gonna have 80%

Pretty sure last time that happened it was still ~30%, which seems pretty impressive considering the video: https://youtu.be/w1u0D0E-Bq0 (SFW but it is a plane crashing)

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_961

[–] errer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

80% survivability…for the black box

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Awkwardly_Frank@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

https://www.aviationsafetymagazine.com/features/the-myths-of-ditching/

Sorry for the wait. I had family visiting and completely forgot about my comment. I believe I recall an FAA study with similar findings, but I can’t find it atm.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure survival chances are a lot lower than 80% when the water is freezing, and they're far from rescue.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think they're saying you'll survive the landing. What happens after is more variable

[–] Awkwardly_Frank@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Surprisingly, no. They counted deaths from exposure, drowning, etc as fatalities in this study: https://www.aviationsafetymagazine.com/features/the-myths-of-ditching/

This is just a review of NTSB data and some ditchings may have gone unreported. The main point is that ditching, even in the open ocean is very survivable.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That makes a lot more sense.

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

That's just his emotional support plane in the background, nothing to see here folks. Move along.

[–] neo@lemy.lol 10 points 1 year ago

Looks like a great opportunity to talk about your car's extended warranty!

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That does not look "fine", but I applaud the optimism.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the empennage in the background that really makes it.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's the aircraft tail

[–] constantturtleaction@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

That's what I think the aircraft tail is.

[–] jagungal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's gotta be the most pretentious way of saying "aircraft tail"

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pretty common. Fusalage and empennage. Front and back.

E oh damn two n's? That is pretentious.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reason why it sounds pretentious:

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Such majestic splendor.