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submitted 1 month ago by cloudless@fedia.io to c/firefox@fedia.io

The most requested Vertical Tabs will make an appearance in the upcoming Firefox. The feature can now be turned on in Nightly itself without the need to rely on third-party extensions or separate Nightly builds.

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[-] Perhyte@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Is this just placing them vertically, nothing else?

I currently use the Tree Style Tab extension and really like how it handles sub-tabs and allows collapsing the tree nodes. If I can't have that this is probably not directly useful to me unless extensions can add that functionality.

I guess I'll be watching how this evolves though.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

This is exactly what was expected.

After all, it's called Vertical Tabs, not Nested Tree Tabs.

unless extensions can add that functionality

I guess that's the idea. Most sidebar extensions need reworking with the new sidebar, but now addons wanting to add functionality to the tab strip no longer have to first also "invent" the whole vertical tab strip. They can just start from the existing one.

[-] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I'm in a similar boat. I use Sidebery which has groups of tabs (in addition to nesting them). Would really want something similar built in natively to organize all of them.

[-] gramathy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I use TST with some CSS modifications to nearly eliminate the top bar and I like it a lot

[-] msdropbear42@loma.ml 3 points 1 month ago

@Perhyte @cloudless Agree, but fwiw, IMO, #Sidebery is even more powerful & flexible than #TreeStyleTab AO. After being spoiled by both these for years, #Nightly has heaps of catching up to do before the native solution will become my choice... but i emphatically DO want sophisticated #VerticalTabs to be native, so hope the Devs learn from & adopt from these two AOs.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I honestly hope they do not. The base implementation should be something utterly basic - I mean, quite literally the horizontal tab strip, but vertical. And then present an API for extending them, allowing consumers to bolt their own functionality on top as needed for their specific use case.

Don't stuff the browser full of stuff only a tiny minority uses, tbh.

[-] waldyrious@mastodon.social 1 points 1 month ago

@msdropbear42@loma.ml @Perhyte@lemmy.world @cloudless@fedia.io as a long-time #TreeStyleTab user, I've seen many people mention that #Sidebery is better, more powerful, etc., but I keep missing out on what exactly are the killer features that make the difference for so many people to have this preference. I'm pretty happy with TST, and suspect that the main things I'm missing are small papercuts and UX tune ups, but maybe there are features I don't know I need? Please enlighten me 😁

[-] msdropbear42@loma.ml 2 points 1 month ago

@waldyrious @Perhyte @cloudless I was a #TST user for many years, before discovering #Sidebery, so i do know how excellent TST is. IMO though, TST lost its way once the Dev chose to remove much core functionality from it, devolving it all instead to myriad companion AOs the user then also must install. As well, various functions some users wanted were explicitly ruled out by the Dev.

Otoh the Sidebery Dev has been immensely receptive to new ideas, as well as feedback for improving existing features, + ALL the functionality of TST exists within Sidebery's Settings without needing to have any companion AOs. There's so much i like about Sidebery, but just to mention a mere handful of benefits over TST:

  • tab hover preview thumbnails
  • infinite separate Workspaces [called Tab Panels in Sidebery]
  • optional integration in the Sidebery Panel of Closed Tabs, Bookmarks, History [done better than in TST]
  • infinite Session backups & restores
  • really clever context menu options such that many commonplace tab operations can be done "one handed"... you really need to play with this to understand

My reply is inadequate. Much better would be to install the AO, explore its rich Settings, & play with it all.

[-] waldyrious@mastodon.social 3 points 1 month ago

@msdropbear42@loma.ml @Perhyte@lemmy.world @cloudless@fedia.io thank you! The integrated history and bookmarks alone is already enticing enough. I'll give it a try! 😃

[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago

Been using some extensions to get this done.

Currently using Sidebar Tabs. I have gotten used to grouped tabs, which is something I don't want to give up. I've mapped Ctrl+Space to open and close it, which is super satisfying.

I switched from Sideberry, which was cool since it is so configurable, and that it can store and recall entire lists of links. I think this is a nice alternative to bookmarks, because it gives you a sort of link manifest, that you can even export.

Mozilla's attempt seems... lackluster in comparison, but it's still under development. So eh. Thinking of going Librefox, Waterfox or even Floorp - though that would be like going ESR.

[-] msdropbear42@loma.ml 3 points 1 month ago

@taanegl @cloudless Yes...

or even Floorp - though that would be like going ESR.

...but in July, the #Floorp Dev is jumping from #ESR to FF-Release version. Really looking fwd to it. Already Floorp + #Sidebery is wonderful, so soon will be even better.

[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

..I get a "Forbidden" error on all those tags ^^; Apparently they are not publicly available.

BUT COOL! I'll be giving Floorp a spin then :)

[-] msdropbear42@loma.ml 2 points 1 month ago

@taanegl Cool. Interested to hear later what you think of it.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Okay, great. Can I have tab rows back? On top? Where the tabs go?

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

I desire tab matrices. Bottom 20% of the window is my browser display

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

A tight grid beats getting lost in barely two dozen tabs at a time, scrolling horizontally and having no idea where it begins or ends. You'd need a thousand tabs in one window to take up even 500px vertically.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Gimme big tabs that look like buttons on a child's ipad app. I also want the tab matrix enabled and always visible on mobile. Finally, they must make various squeaking/honking/chirping noises when I select them and animal noises when left inactive for too long.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Sorry, that version of Firefox only comes on CD-ROM for Windows 98.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

basking in the nostalgia of my friends and I shattering AOL trial disks in the cul-de-sac

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I was right there with you, a thousand miles away.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

And just like the fucking floating tabs they have excessively fat padding / gaps. And if you have this replacing the tabs at the top, then you might as well move the window buttons down one row and remove the top bar entirely.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And if you have this replacing the tabs at the top, then you might as well move the window buttons down one row and remove the top bar entirely

Yeah that part is weird. But it's early in development and this sounds like something you add late, tbh.

Still, it's kinda ... well ... the point. Use the readily available horizontal space with a vertical tab strip to free up the precious vertical space by removing that entire bar. 😅

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I have the top bar removed (using some css hacks) for like a year and it's mostly fine. Using sidebery for vertical tabs.

[-] neme@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I can see the revamped sidebar but it doesn't show the tabs in the sidebar for me.

[-] cloudless@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

Please follow the instructions in the linked article.

[-] neme@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Had to wait few hours before it offered correct update, seems to work now.

[-] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 3 points 1 month ago

@cloudless@fedia.io One of the few reasons I had to stick to Waterfox, yeepee

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

yess, i've been waiting for this (love sidebury but would love to see something built in).

really hope there will be an option to change the width and add the tab title/favicon, since i prefer the edge vertical tabs. i'm sure that's coming through.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Bing... X... Facebook... Bing... Google...

Not an Ecosia, Searx, Mastodon, Lemmy, or even DuckDuckGo to be seen. Just dreck.

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