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[-] ISOmorph@feddit.de 40 points 1 week ago

To the surprise of no one, it's just a matter of time until local accounts in personal windows editions are removed entirely.

[-] Tilgare@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I bought a pro license because of basic features being stripped out of home over time - here's to hoping it's ONLY home licenses that get abused.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

They don‘t even stop at enterprise level. You have to adjust a lot using intune and other tools to make windows enterprise not a privacy nightmare that may even be illegal to force your workers to work with.

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Have you tried a non Unix distribution from our lord and saviour Linus

[-] Tilgare@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I've watched the other Linus (the one with the tech tips) on a month long daily driver challenge for Linux and I just can't bring myself to dive in voluntarily for all the headaches and incompatibilities I know I'll uncover - those presented, and about a thousand others sure to come up for each individual user.

I used to LOVE flashing roms on my devices. Started with my PSP, installing CFW so I could install homebrew. Then it was my phone and I loved the flexibility to do things Android couldn't do or didn't want me to be able to do. It was basically a hobby all unto itself, checking for new feature updates, sometimes taking a nightly build to fix a bug, finding a problem and deep diving for the right root application to fix it, whatever the case. Now I do too much with my phone to have a broken user created 5g radio, or GPS is currently broken in this ROM, or my homescreen glitches out when I switch apps rapidly. I just don't have the patience or time for my phone that I need to be able to trust to work - to not work, and good luck finding the root cause.

Same sort of deal with my PC. I already have a VERY unusual setup to begin with, using Aster v7 to multiseat both my wife and myself on the same computer. It's over specced to the point that we can pretty easily play games simultaneously without issue. Aster SOMETIMES presents usability issues, but nothing like what Linux would do. And while I haven't investigated it, I'd bet that it would be a real struggle to replicate this setup in Linux. But my weird edge case aside, I'm fully capable and yet completely disinterested in converting because I just need it to work, for everything I'm doing, and without a 2 hour rabbit hole on why I can't install this one dependency I need.

I have a couple bootable flash drives laying around and have dualbooted computers in the past. But I just don't think I could fully migrate today.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Well, he had chosen manjaro.. So, I was not surprised. He would have had a way better time by either stick to fedora and flatpaks, or EndeavourOS and installing everything from AUR/extra/EndeavourOS repos via yay.

Or maybe something Debian based.. but I already see him installing a .deb instead of adding the source to APT and get confused about no Updates.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

😇and about your multiseat setup. After a short internet search, it seems, that this is a feature of the displays server x.org, which can be used with any Linux: https://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/Multiseat/

This is not meant as Attack, this is just a info I want to share with you!

[-] Tilgare@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's good to know I have options! Aster is already the singular solution on Windows as far as I can tell, and for good reason I figure... this is a pretty fringe need. But at least I know I can potentially replicate the setup on Linux - I'll for sure look in to that.

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I absolutely understand the extra work worry. I worry Microsoft is killing Windows consumers slowly enshutifying it by turning the heat up slowly. I hope not but i expect it will reach a point where it will no longer be the product you recognise. I do highly reccomend dual booting to learn when you have the energy. I recently switched back and have been very impressed by nixos approach to configuration based system wide configuration. Its dam fantastic novel approach, my OS and apps are configured via files and if i screw up to it’s easy as rebooting and selecting the previous config. It took me 2 hours to get everything configured as a newbie including hdr. I am now done, have nothing more to tinker and have a future proof computer which in my opinion saves me significantly more time than windows. For example if i reinstall, i just add my config to the installation and done. Literally everything is setup exactly how i like it from os to apps.

If you ever do decide to try out Linux there are plenty of us ex Windows users in the community that are willing to help where we can.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago
[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

Won't happen. A majority of windows users are corporate and they use windows domain.

[-] 30p87@feddit.de 32 points 1 week ago

operating system

You misspelled "spyware with a program loader strapped to it".

[-] rozodru@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Honestly, switch to Linux.

I've been a Windows user all my life and my last attempt at using Linux was back in the early 00's and....it did not go well at all. but now? it's easier to install than Windows and it's faster.

I finally decided to make the switch the other week after someone on Lemmy suggested Mint to me. Really it's the best way to get introduced to Linux and it's so god damn painfully easy to install. Once you get your barings you can switch to another distro that's more suited to what you want to focus on doing on your pc.

I used Mint for just over a week, figured out packages and cloning from repos to install things, got all my games and what have you working on it, etc. Then decided to go with CachyOS cause it seemed a great option for gaming.

It just works. And there's so many great communities online where if something doesn't work there's people out there who know HOW to get it to work and walk you through it. It's actually easier to find programs and and install them then using windows. If I want something well I can either open up Octopi (built in) and search for something I need OR if I know it's on Windows and I want in on Cachy I can go to AUR and just search for it. 9 times out of 10 someone has already made a package to install it. couple of command lines later and I have it. literally just copy and paste the git repo and build it.

I'll never go back to Windows, never. Linux is in such a great place right now that your basic PC user can get it going. And it's so much fun to customize and tailor to your needs.

[-] Artaca@lemdro.id 4 points 1 week ago

First I'm hearing of CachyOS, very interesting! Have had my eye on Zorin, personally, as it seems like a pretty clean transition from a life of Windows. Haven't looked at how it does with games.

Can't quite get past the hump of needing Autodesk and Adobe software to be functioning flawlessly and easily accessible. A VM might suffice but that also sounds a little clunky and need to test it out.

[-] rozodru@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I went with CachyOS cause it was also suggested to me here, has a good development team, and works great with nvidia cards. It's so fast too. doubles my FPS on most games (went from 40ish FPS in Final Fantasy 14 on Windows to 80+ FPS on CachyOS) and also doubles my battery life of my laptop. Windows 11 had my battery to like maybe an hour but 30min for sure if I was doing anything other than browsing. on linux I'm getting 3 hours out of it regardless of what I'm doing.

If you're looking to easily transition from windows to get used to linux I'd say anything that uses Plasma or Cinnamon will do you well. an Arch distro with Plasma would work swimmingly.

[-] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 12 points 1 week ago

They should add a button that installs Linux XD

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

i mean while not a button, they have a command line prompt for it technically, wsl --install

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago
cd c:
del *.*
[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That's what edge is for, I guess.

[-] ssm 6 points 1 week ago

Windows is a good Linux advertisement

Linux is a good *BSD advertisement

*BSD is a good Plan9 advertisement

Plan9 is dead

Guess I'll live in the woods 🤷

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

As much as I hate advocating FOR subscriptions. If Microsoft told me for $10 a month I could just have windows with all the options for me to run it HOW I FUCKING WANT as opposed to how they think I should. Id pay it.

[-] rozodru@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I mean you can install Revi with Windows 11 and that makes Microsoft essentially stay out of the picture while you do what you want. If I were to go back to Windows I wouldn't do it without installing it with Revi.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I will be looking into this further, thanks for the tip.

[-] rozodru@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Don't expect a MASSIVE increase in performance though. Just keep that in mind. But it will remove Edge, copilot, onedrive, ads, manditory updates, and a lot of microsoft bloatware.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago
[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Out of support

Though a subscription for Windows to just be Linux is a silly premise

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I dont want to have to use what limited spare time I have to learn how to use Linux, I dont have the time its that simple. I have a pc, it just WORKS. Literally everything I want to do just works. I just want to have the start menu do exactly what I want, stop recommending me onedrive, stop showing me advertisements in outlook and stop giving us privacy invading features nobody wants.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

just works. I just want to have the start menu do exactly what I want, stop recommending me onedrive, stop showing me advertisements in outlook and stop giving us privacy invading features nobody wants.

You just described Linux

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

What does not just work on mint, that you need?

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I have to set up my pc for dual boot, choose a distro, install it, get it to work if theres any issues, then sort out whats different then try and install all my apps and games to figure out what does and doesnt work from those.

Its not that I dislike Linux or have anything against it but Ive been running Windows since 1996, I know how to do things already. I just want MS to just stop being "helpful" and fuck off. The quest for ongoing revenue means that is unlikely though.

I might give Linux a try when my daughter is a bit older and I have some free time. I like the IDEA of it, but I know Windows now and already.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

You do not need to choose a distro -> already defined as mint..

You don’t need to do a dual boot in order to test what works. Just use the stick to liveBoot into mint but don’t start the linux installer. In this way, you can test if the things you need do just work without changing anything on the windows HD/SS

But my question was about what isn’t just working, which was your argument prior for not using Linux and now it turned out, that you not seem to know, I guess

[-] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Depending on the distro there really isn't to much to learn, at least not for basic use

Personally after I switched it meant less time futzing with my computer, it just does what I want when I want

And when I want to install software 99% of the time it just involves searching discover (the KDE software manager) and clicking a button to install

I do not miss the complexity of doing things in Windows

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