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I get it, Biden is old and that's a problem, but why doesn't anyone seem to have a problem with the fact that Trump is almost the same age, has 34 felonies, raped at least 2 women, went to Epstein's Island 11 times, sexualized his own daughter, stole classified documents, aligned himself with Xi and Putin, and can't remember common names?

Is all of that really better than being 2½ years older than he is right now?

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[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

If you want an honest answer, I'd recommend finding some place that has a decent population of openly right-wing people so you can get an answer from them directly, rather than left-wingers snarking and saying they're all brainwashed fanatics that would never dissent from the party's candidate.

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[-] kava@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I think you misunderstand who is asking Biden to drop out and why.

Dems are interested in who is the DNC candidate and Republicans are interested in the GOP candidate.

Republicans as a whole are OK with Trump. He's not incredibly popular, but he has some achievements under his belt and has a relatively small but very loyal core group of voters. The average Republican believes that a) Trump has good chances of winning election and b) will likely move forward conservative policy objectives.

Therefore, why would they want him to drop out?

If we look on the other side at Biden. A growing group of people believe that he is not 100% mentally there because of his age. Because of this, not only does he a) have lower chances of winning the election but also b) is he really competent enough to be president? Sure, there's a sort of shadow administration behind him but people still put value in having a strong and mentally quick head of state.

Beyond that, there's also a small group of progressive voters who are unhappy with Biden's policies. He simply isn't a very effective leader and is one of the most unpopular presidents in US history. He's even more unpopular than Trump, who was also a deeply unpopular president.

So, people want Biden to resign because they believe other people would not only a better chance of winning election, but would be more effective leaders in terms of advancing DNC policy objectives.

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[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

I'd be thrilled if they both dropped out.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago

Because suggesting your enemy do things is meaningless.

[-] fantasyocean@lemmy.myserv.one 12 points 5 months ago

Why would he drop out? His racist and nonsensical ramblings are what Republicans/conservatives/the wealthy and his base want. It's leftist and some liberals who don't want that. Which is why there are calls for Biden to drop out. That's not complicated. I barely even understand how this is a question

[-] Doxatek@mander.xyz 11 points 5 months ago

One thing I never understand is that all I ever hear about from Republicans is how old Biden is. While being true and not that I necessarily like Biden no one ever talks about how Trump is only three years younger. Biden has to answer for his age all the time but it's not a thing Trump typically deals with

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Different standards. Conservatives did this since the fall of kings, and doing this while want to reinstate them.

If the opponent messes up, they're incompetent. If they themselves, it's either someone else's problem, just part of being human, or try to cover it up with the media until everyone forgets it.

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[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago

The people calling for Biden to drop out are supporters of his party, the democrats, who recognize that he’s unfit and incapable of winning. They want him to be replaced by someone else to increase their party’s chances of victory.

No one is calling for trump to drop out because he’s looking more fit in comparison to Biden and he’s projected to win. No one would call for a candidate to drop out when they’re in the lead if they support that candidates party.

Criminal allegations, true or false, don’t enter into it because America has a two tiered justice system where the wealthy and powerful are less beholden to the law than the rest of us and because presidency requires the violation of myriad international laws, norms and human rights.

The job title might as well be War Criminal in Chief and none of the allegations leveled at trump are disqualifying.

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[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

I think you'll find that basically everyone on the left would like for Trump to step down. But it's a waste of breath to actually voice it.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

I would gladly have Trump drop out. It won't happen. Trump is running to save his own ass. For my part, I have grave doubts about Biden's ability to win that have been building for a few months but came sharply into focus during the first minute of that debate.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

....is this a joke?

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Because conservatives are cowards. It's that simple. They are afraid of those who may challenge them.

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Because

  • None of the above legally prevent him from running.
  • Republican voters will still vote for him en masse.

It's that simple.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Republicans have no shame

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Are you only counting insular social media bubbles like this one and/or media like CNN which takes that to be the default position and therefore doesn't repeat it ad nauseum, or do you mean you've been scoping out trumpsocial where you'd be more likely to see conservatives talking amongst themselves and so you'd be more likely to see that type of infighting? Cause maybe that's why.

[-] codapine@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

It's like he's a real life Zaphod Beeblebrox, only far, far worse.

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

The problem the Republican party seems to have right now is that it's caught in a bizarre cult of personality, where the only viable candidate is Donald Trump. Eight years have been dedicated to a man that likely won't be around for another eight due to his age and lifestyle. Donald Trump can't drop out, because to many he IS the Republican Party.

Put succinctly, if Trump were to drop out, could you realistically see him backing another candidate, without making it about himself?

In some ways it's petrifying that Trump could win. In another, it's hilarious to think that IF Trump were to lose, how would the Republicans recover in four years? Trump will never not make it about himself, and I bet he'll put himself on the ballot for as long as he can, further eroding the right.

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