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You must be poisoning the purity of the sub. Good job.
The narrative had been the transatlantic resurgence of far right politics. Now that Britain and France have reversed that movement, hopefully the US will continue that trend.
From what I understand, Starmer's labor isn't exactly reversing it, anymore than Biden reversed the resurgence of far-right politics in the US or Blairite Labor did during the 2000s.
The alternatives were fascist, not perfect, but better.
I disagree, both the left and the right have gained ground at the expense of the centre. Labour may have won a supermajority but they did so with fewer votes than in 2019 when they lost to the Conservatives.
The biggest reason they did so well this time around was because the Conservative vote was split by the far right Reform party. Reform won barely any seats but they had the third highest turnout of any party.
Can't continue that trend when the only people on the ballot are right-wing senile pieces of shit
Excellent, call it what it is, an alliance against fascism. An Anti-fascist organization, if you will.
Now we just need to make sure Germany doesn't declare war. Again.
Our government isn’t right wing yet. Gotta wait for the next election. And with our left basically disappearing to birth a horseshoe party, there’s not much to hope for…
Good news, finally.
Incredibly good news. They're ahead of both the far right and the centrists.
I'm glad they're pulling ahead, but I can't help thinking that any electoral system that's capable of producing a surprising outcome is fundamentally broken, because it means that a handful of people have a huge impact on the final outcome.
It's because projections from the first round did not take into account how much people hate the far right and would vote another party that passed the first round, even if they don't agree with them, to prevent the far right from getting elected. In three-ways for the second round, the parties in third position that were either centrists or leftists called for their candidate to remove themselves from the vote to allow for a bigger coalition against the far right
Or people could have heeded warnings of a looming fascist takeover en masse.
Or the predictions were simply erroneous.
Or it's not surprising to everyone, just the ones in charge of the media.
There's tons of possible explanations that don't involve a few powerful people conspiring.
I said nothing about conspiring. I was thinking of how a swing of a few percent of voters in many systems can be all it takes to swing the outcome between different extremes of policy and ideology. No system with that property can reliably represent the will of the people, because whatever the overall will is, the system will routinely fail to represent it. People elected to nationwide offices should be boring centrists pretty much 100% of the time because most countries have little ideological consistency in their populations and they should never have a national leader who antagonizes a large portion of the population.
I disagree with pretty much everything, but THIS is absolute lunacy:
People elected to nationwide offices should be boring centrists pretty much 100% of the time
Have fun playing fascist roulette, then. That's what's happening whether we want it or not.
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