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[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

My favorite one is when our utility company asks me to donate to help pay for people's utilities like they aren't raking in record amount of cash.

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[-] MobileSuitBagera@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Remember kids, they also get to use the money they guilted off of you to reduce their tax liability because they get credit for donating your money!

[-] PerfectParanoia@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is not true. I am not from the US or a lawyer but these donations sould show up on your receipt and count as your direct donation to the charity. The store is just a middleman and does not get any benefit. Here is a random, semi recent article about it you can find a lot more if you look it up online.

[-] Piramic@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I used to work for a retail chain many years ago and I do not think this is true for everywhere.

When we were asking for donations it was tracked and if our location didn't get enough donations our store manager would get talked to by his district manager. I don't know exactly what happened to the money once it was donated, but I don't think they would have been so adamant about getting the donations if they didn't make anything from it.

This was like 20 years ago though, maybe its different now.

[-] mighty_alfredo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

They do not, at least in the US.

[-] axtualdave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It depends on exactly what the store is doing.

If the store is representing the extra charge as a donation to a specific charity, generally, the customer can deduct that.

If it's far more vague, like, "Give $10 to help poor kids in Africa" the ultimate destination for the funds could be the company's own ledgers, which it would then use for its own charitable activities and collect the tax deduction, as long as they "help poor kids in Africa."

And some stores are just lying. CVS, for instance, was sued as part of a class action suit when, after the company pledges $10 million to the American Diabetes Association, then collected money from customers to fund that pledge.

[-] FreeDiverX@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

First, please don't link to Reddit...

Many Of The Largest Charities In America Are Giant Money Making Scams
http://thetruthwins.com/archives/many-of-the-largest-charities-in-america-are-giant-money-making-scams

[-] fsk@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Those charities have huge overhead. Very little money goes to the actual cause.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

There are sites to check how much actually goes out. Check before you donate.

[-] AltF4me@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago
[-] drmugg@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago

And redirecting you attention on to the "offsets" scam too.

Ever wonder why climate change is such a problem if 1.5 pence per liter petroleum burnt can undo the damage? Spoiler: it can't. You can't sequester CO² for that cheap, and CO² isn't the only issue. "Offsets" are not certified by any trustworthy third party, and companies intentionally don't pry too much, so they can say "Oh sorry, didn't know" if anyone investigates and discovers they did squat-all.

[-] zombuey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just FYI this is a sort of scam. ~~The company donates the money on your behalf and they get the tax write-off for your donation while also appearing philanthropic for PR purposes~~. that's why they do it.

EDIT: US companies cannot do this in the US you can claim up to $300 on taxes. This is legit in the US.

[-] Sendbeer@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

@zombuey I've heard that a lot, but it is apparently not true unless the company claims your donation as a profit and then writes it off, which negates any tax benefit. I think it's more just a PR thing to make you feel good about that company while using your own money.

[-] Dravin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think it’s more just a PR thing to make you feel good about that company while using your own money.

Yep, even without any direct financial benefit there is certainly a reason to engage in such behavior. The store gets you to associate it with the charity campaign and they'll make hay over the amount of donations they helped collect and their partnership with the charity. Drives for employee donations can also be used in a similar manner.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

They cannot claim it as profit if they are following the law.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

They cannot, and do not, claim your donations on their taxes.

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[-] this@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Or just...donate the perfectly good food they constantly throw out into the cadged dumpsters designed to keep homeless people out... Litteraly would cost them nothing...

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[-] Licensed_to_ill@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Those donations you make can help them deduct from taxes, right?

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[-] darkknight@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I hate when any company I'm buying something from does this.

[-] norapink@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I hate these donate screens because I have no idea where the donation actually goes and i don't want to have to do a ton of research at the grocery checkout about whether its a good charity.

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[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

And I will never ever give these fools my actual phone number for discounts. Just use any area code w/ 867-5309 to get around this.

[-] jackoneill@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Jenny Jenny, who can I turn to? You give me something I can hold on to. I know you think I’m like the others before who saw your name and number on the wall

[-] danielton@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Just wait until you get a tip prompt on a self checkout kiosk...

[-] mcc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Then they will say it is more efficient to merge the donations with regular revenue and make bulk donations every quarter or something.

To be fair, I bet these companies strike deals with the charitable organizations to in turn raise visibility of those charities among the company's customers.

[-] demvoter@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t trust them to actually donate anyway. How would you ever find out? I suspect these are scams to hold the money and get interest off it even if they do ultimately donate it.

[-] Slartibartfast@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Not sure if this is 100% accurate, but I heard that how it works is they donate the money first, get the tax write-off and then try to hit people up at the checkouts to refund all the money after the fact. That way they get the tax break for donating the money without actually being out of pocket. I don't know what happens if people donate more than the amount they spent, but I think I can take a reasonable guess.

[-] FrickAndMortar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I think that’s what CVS got busted doing:

https://www.fastcompany.com/90820744/cvs-asks-for-donations-at-checkout-but-are-customers-being-guilted-into-paying-the-pharmacys-debts

“according to a lawsuit filed by a New Yorker, this money is allegedly being used to repay a $10 million commitment that the pharmacy chain has already made to the ADA, unbeknownst to customers. The suit accuses CVS of engaging in fraud and violating consumer protection laws in all 50 states. In essence, it argues, CVS is guilt-tripping customers in the checkout line to reimburse its own charitable donations.”

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[-] Skellybones@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I just say no

[-] tomve_cz@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

It's still fine.

Some big international store in europe is asking to buy food from them for full price and donate it to food bank. Fuckin hilarious for making profit on charity.

[-] TheDeadGuy@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Bad example, grocery stores usually have small margins and aren't making a lot of money off of you

[-] TheDeadGuy@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Bad example, grocery stores usually have small margins and aren't making a lot of money off of you

[-] Izzgo@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

This is actually true. But those small margins add up to a huge profit overall. Still, they probably could not afford to donate $20 per shopper.

[-] Colt420@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

How bout the fact if they achieved their goals, they wouldn't have a problem to have a charity for and thats a bigger concern to them. They'd rather not help people than not exist. They may as well just pretend they are the poor people their campaigning for. Or be technically homeless and donate to themselves while living in charity(company) owned residence

[-] cloverthecutie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Nah the charities are usually legit. But the companies aren't doing it out of the goodness of their heart, it's a massive tax write off as well as free PR.

[-] Spacecraft@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I hate when they pull this shit at drive through fast food. “Would you like to round up to donate to our charity?”

Who knows what the person taking my order thinks about this charity, and what they might do to someone’s food who says no.

[-] sirkook@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I can assure you that nobody working at the fast food restaurant gives a shit if you donate to charity.

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[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

They wouldn't be rich if they donated THEIR money, right?

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