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‘Star Trek: Voyager’ star Robert Beltran accused of breaking actors’ strike rules and endorsing homophobic comments on X (www.dailydot.com)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml to c/startrek@lemmy.ml

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[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 years ago

[–] L26@ttrpg.network 23 points 2 years ago

Well that’s not very Chakotay

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ok, well I always thought it was weird Chakotay didn't get mentioned much in newer trek. I thought it was mostly because his character was a massive fail in attempting to portray an indigenous character but maybe it is also just because the actor himself sucks?

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

he’s not the only Trek (or even the only VOY) actor to run afoul of fans because said Bad Things™ on Twitter.

In 2017, Manu Intiraymi, who played Icheb on VOY, tweeted some nasty comments in defense of Kevin Spacey who was accused of sexually assaulting DIS actor Anthony Rapp when he was 14. Not only did Trek fans collectively have an aneurysm (and rightly so), Paramount cut ties with him over the incident. Not long after, his character, Icheb, was killed especially brutally in an episode of PIC— while also portrayed by a different actor. Many interpreted that as those working on Trek telling Intiraymi exactly how they felt about his comments— while also closing the door on his ever returning.

[–] flipbits@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why was his character a massive fail in that regard?

[–] RojaBunny@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not sure of all the details, but the guy the production hired to give them information on customs/culture to use in the show turned out to be a total sham, for one.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

[+] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

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[–] sshff 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Additional context:

He has also gone on to block a large number of LGBTQ fans tweeting to simply ask if he meant what was implied or not. The situation ain’t good.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He has also gone on to block a large number of LGBTQ fans tweeting to simply ask if he meant what was implied or not. The situation ain’t good.

Yeah that is not good! And I'm glad people asked.

To others, on the off chance this actually appears. Apologies if my meaning was not clear. I think that the person Beltran responded to is homophobic and disgusting. I also thought that the person quote tweeting him put words in his mouth. Both of these things are bad.

Clearly with the additional context from this comment Beltran is also an asshole. All of the others seemed to think that me expressing both opinions above means I was "defending" Beltran, which is not the case. It was also possible to interpret what he said as trying to avoid the question. I assume that's why people asked him to clarify.

[–] sshff 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s ok. Being fair, open minded, and happy to hear new info is the best way to go about these things. This is the first time a bunch of people are hearing about Beltran being a bit of a bigoted arsehole but he’s been like this for years (didn’t used to be this bad, at least overtly, but has gotten more so with age). Those who have been in the convention scene for a fair time are in no way shocked.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah I get that! The last convention I went to was maybe 2017 and he wasn't there so it makes sense. Kind of crazy to think that an actor in Trek can have these type of views I guess.

Anyway, thanks for being nice and explaining this without judgment! I appreciate it. Coming from reddit it's a breath of fresh air

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“People in the lgbtq+ community aren’t real trek fans” is absolutely not what he said.

he agreed with it, which is tantamount to saying it himself.

He shouldn’t have agreed with this asshole who tweeted at him, but that is what he did wrong.

yet, you’re here defending him? so, you think it’s ok to agree with bigotry as long as you don’t say it out loud? wow

But this is just not good enough for the woman who quote tweeted him and just had to add her own little flair to the truth to make it sound worse.

Beltran says agrees with a homophobic/transphobic tweet, and your problem is that someone objected? So, to you, the bigotry isn’t the problem, but the fact that anyone has a problem with bigotry and speaks out against it? Because that’s what it sounds like.