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In the wake of the most recent Zionist attacks on Lebanon i have been disappointed to notice an uptick in comrades both here and on Hexbear who are not able to put these events into proper context and are instead allowing their emotions to overwhelm their logic. In times like these one must take a step back and look at the bigger picture, and for goodness's sake stop taking Zionist propaganda at face value.

I think it is worth reading what this article quotes Dugin as saying, because literally every single thing he says in his response to these events is the wrong conclusion to draw from what has happened. Unfortunately some of what a few comrades have written in recent news threads is beginning to sound exactly like Dugin, completely misinterpreting what is happening as the Zionist entity "winning" rather than signs of its terminal desperation, making the mistake of drawing the conclusion that in order to win a war you must behave like the Zionists, and assuming that if the Resistance does not respond with in some big and aggressive way that means they must be losing.

I have also read takes very similar to Dugin's on the Ukraine conflict, also claiming after every hollow Kiev Junta propaganda victory that Russia must escalate in order not to allow itself to be "humiliated". Yet when the dust has settled we have consistently seen that the patient approach has been the successful one, Russia is now in a better position diplomatically, militarily and economically than when it started while the crimes of the Zionists have not brought them any closer to victory. Every leader of the Resistance they martyr brings countless more fighters to its ranks. Every atrocity they commit further isolates them on the world stage. Their economy is imploding and no amount of crimes against humanity will reverse that. They are doing nothing but digging their own grave.

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[-] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago

The patient approach definitely has its merits, but Palestine and Russia are not comparable in terms of military might. Russia is massive, and its civilians (with the exception of some in Kursk) are feeling very little pain from Ukraine's attacks.

Gaza is small and densely populated, and has faced constant, horrific attacks on civilians. I'm not positive about the numbers, but something like 80% of the population has been displaced, and 75% of buildings destroyed or damaged. Hamas rarely launches attacks now, compared to maybe six months ago, so its capabilities have definitely been degraded.

And of course Beirut is being subjected to an even more brutal display of firepower. Does this mean the resistance has lost? That "israel" is actually achieving its stated objectives? Or that it's likely to continue getting what it wants?

I don't think so. I agree that the patient strategy has been working to undermine the entity, and that its economic collapse is inevitable if it tries to stay the course.

But it's still surreal to watch as Yemen and Iraq stick their necks out doing everything they can, while Iran says it supports the resistance, but still hasn't even followed through (yet?) on its promised retaliation for Haniyeh.

I mean, I get it that Iran doesn't want to start a wider war that would inevitably draw in the US, but what will be left of Palestine or Lebanon if they continue to play it safe?

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 months ago

It's war. There's going to be death and destruction. Everyone who supports the resistance must steel themselves and understand that there will be sacrifices and suffering, and that the struggle will be long. But it is also important to remember that Palestine and Lebanon are only part of the larger axis of Resistance. The Great Satan could not even subjugate Afghanistan, so their pet neocolony certainly has no chance of subjugating the entire region. They will never again know peace no matter how many innocents they murder.

Finally, those of us who do not live there should not presume to know better than those who have been involved in this struggle for decades what strategy they should employ and how or when they should respond. They are not stupid and they are not blind, they understand at least as well as we do the enemy they are facing.

[-] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I don't actually disagree with anything you said here. It's just hard watching from the sidelines while the genocide is broadcast in realtime. I think the pace and scale of the destruction in Lebanon really got me.

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

That is completely understandable. It's impossible as a normal empathetic person to watch what is happening and not feel deeply affected.

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