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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by ericbomb@lemmy.world to c/frugal@lemmy.world

Stolen from Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1ftmkwt/oc_foods_cost_vs_caloric_density/

But I loved it. Also this has Shrimp removed, because it was on the OG chart due to an error and this is an updated version.

EDIT: Here is one for protein! https://www.reddit.com/r/budgetfood/comments/1fp2ytb/foods_cost_per_gram_of_protein_vs_protein_density/#lightbox

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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 46 points 2 months ago

If this chart is meaningful for you, Kamala Harris will not be raising your taxes.

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://lemmy.world/post/19883899

It's important to eat well and remember that if you made 7 thousand dollars a day since the birth of Christ, you still wouldn't have as much money as Bezos.

EDIT: An hour! I was trying to be dramatic and failed!

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

7 thousand an hour, would still be shy of bezos's wealth.

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 13 points 2 months ago

Not including protein powders in the protein chart is pretty stupid. Whey protein is cheaper per gram than anything else on that chart, and vegan protein powders (like soy or pea protein) are even cheaper

[-] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 2 months ago

Yeah corn syrup be about a couple of cents on this plot.

It would be much more interesting to see this in terms of a combination of protein, unsaturated fats And micronutrients.

Like which combination is the cheapest of all?

I suspect it would be something like:

  • Peanut butter (mono)
  • Sunflower oil (poly)
  • WPC (protein with good amino profile)
  • Celery (insoluble fiber)
  • Psyllium husk (soluble fiber)
  • Rice (carbs, low gi)
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[-] 7EP6vuI@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago

nice graph, what is the "calories per gram of food" or "caloric density" dimension/axis good for?

only use-case i can think of is something like packing food for hiking? other than that calories per gram of food is quite irrelevant, or am i missing something?

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Some people walk to get groceries.

edit: on the flip side, if you're trying to lose weight, then eating low density food would probably fill you up faster. So more apples and less sunflower seeds.

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I think it's good to point out how dense they are when shopping. Cause you might be like "walnuts are so expensive per pound, no way they're worth it!" when really they are, they are just crazy dense.

Also if you are caring about "bulk" eating, where you want to make sure your stomach feels full all day, you want more things on the left side cause you'll feel like you are eating more food.

so it is interesting I felt!

[-] 7EP6vuI@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

yes, interesting, i just wondered if i'm missing something, maybe my statement was a bit too negative :-/

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

People who live in poverty could use this graph to plan the cheapest way to get their calories to avoid starving with very little money.

Is that what you're missing?

[-] whereisk@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Pistachios seem awfully cheap from what I know pistachios to cost even considering high caloric density.

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PBKZZ51?tag=sacapuntas9-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1

4160 calories for 14.23

Coming out to 292 calories per dollar, or around 30 cents for 100 calories. Looks to be about where it's at! He might have found an even cheaper source. I think this chart does a great job of pointing out that just because things like almonds are more per pound than chicken, doesn't mean they aren't better deals if you are concerned with energy.

[-] whereisk@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Wow, they are incredibly cheap in the US - in Australia they are nearly double the price per kg.

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah he mentions his source is Walmart in a specific state, but amazon is more consistent here.

Always interesting to hear how different stuff is in different countries!

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, the US is one of the big producers. Wikipedia says:

In 2022, world production of pistachios was one million tonnes, with the United States, Iran, and Turkey combined accounting for 88% of the total.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistachio

[-] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Really superb and informational graphic. Iā€™d sure love to see one done by protein per gram/cost. Any chance someone could reach out to the Reddit OP to ask, cause my privileges have been revoked? Pretty please?

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

He already has!

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1avigyr/oc_foods_protein_density_vs_cost_per_gram_of/

Things are as you expect, Our beans are in the bottom right absolutely chilling as kings.

[-] cron@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Grains are "better" than I would have expected.

[-] pipes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I so wish we could get actual wheat grains at the supermarket, possibly bio. Instead whole cereals are mostly sold as animal feed (so with fewer safety standards). It's bs. Same goes for soy beans! They give 'em out to farmers for a lot less than a 1ā‚¬/kg as animal feed, but I have to order them online? While every corner shop has tofu, soy milk, etc.. come on šŸ˜…

[-] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well yay! Thank you for passing that along and kudos to OP.

[-] pipes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I remember seeing a youtube vid from someone who had analyzed all products from one supermarket (after scraping their website), cheapest protein ended up being flour šŸ˜„

After all people can survive on bread, on average if I remember correctly we need just 11-13% of the calories to be protein according to WHO (or less if we are eating with a caloric surplus).. protein needs are vastly exaggerated thanks to health gurus and humans' unhealthy love of meat.

Btw flour and bread are not all the same, especially refined has very little fiber and a little less protein (protein content is used also to determine quality of wheat)

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

So where is "bag of sugar" on this chart?

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Let's find out!

Cheapest per ounce sugar on walmart.com

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Pure-Granulated-Sugar-4-lb/10315162?classType=VARIANT&athbdg=L1200&from=/search

6,810 calories, or 2k calories per dollar. So it'd be hanging around brown rice as one of the cheapest options.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago
[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Haha I mean brown rice is cheaper! And buying flour then making baked goods is cheaper! Do not embrace the dark side!

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I'm calling BS on tuna being more expensive than chix wings...depends on grade of tuna. Wings are expensive AF!

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well we can easily check! It says they used Walmart.

Here's the cheapest per ounce I see for tuna:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Chunk-Light-Tuna-in-Water-5-oz-4-Pack/33867594?classType=VARIANT&athbdg=L1200&from=/search

It's 3.22 for 400 calories, so one dollar gets you 124 calories of tuna.

Then cheapest wings I see at $3 a pound, and have 4,840 calories for 24 dollars, coming out to 200 calories per dollar:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-All-Natural-Chicken-Wing-Sections-8-lb-Frozen/124310906?classType=REGULAR&from=/search

So for me doing the math JUST off packaging (he appears to use a nutritional calculator) it's coming up chicken wings is cheaper source of calories.

So it's possible in this persons state their chicken was slightly cheaper, and they didn't have the generic tuna. But even in my state where chicken costs a little bit more than what is listed, and my tuna costs a little less, chicken wings are still close to 50% cheaper for calories.

I wonder if it's just a "Feeling" thing, because a little can of tuna is just a dollar! That must be cheap, right?... but a can of tuna is 100 calories, which isn't a great deal.

[-] pipes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Idk what their source was but I think you should look for cheapest "possible" to do a fair comparison (cause obviously a certain shop can have super expensive wings). Near me lowest for wings will be 3-5ā‚¬/kg, canned tuna starts from 8/kg when on discount, but also has like 30% of seed or olive oil in it (so actual tuna cost to the consumer is more like 12ā‚¬/kg minimum) Chicken is definitely cheaper everywhere IME.

BTW I'm talking raw chicken wings..everything pre-cooked costs more

[-] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago

That depends on where you are what time of year it is. I can get wings on sale for $1.99/lb fairly regular. The only fish I can get that cheap is tilapia.

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah canned tuna is almost always a dollar for a dinky little can of 100 calories. A pound of wings has many times that, with the online one I found being $3/lb.

So I guess this chart is doing a pretty good job at breaking up some preconceived notions!

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

There's a dock worker strike on the East Coast. That banana price is going to skyrocket for a little while.

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Fingers crossed for them! I hope they get the wages they need to not need to live by this chart, and guarantees that even as the docks modernize the workers will have good paying jobs regardless.

[-] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Dairy would be helpful.

[-] KaRunChiy@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

Being a budget minded shopper these last few years, this all checks out

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah shouldn't a real shocker for anyone who compares prices and calories!

Only thing that caught me off guard is pork belly is chilling down by potatoes in cost per calorie! But given how fatty pork belly is, I guess it makes sense!

[-] Illegalmexicant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

We need a graph of vending machine items cost-per-calorie. I know I could get an 800 calorie honeybun for $1. But that was 2000s numbers.

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Some people requested it for comparison! But let's see if I can do some quick back of the box math.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Glazed-Honey-Buns-10-5-oz-6-Count/14336401?classType=REGULAR&from=/search

1200 calories for 2 dollars, so 600 calories per dollar or .15 for 100 calories, putting it around oat in price terms. Which is expected since it's just bread and sugar, but still far more expensive than like pasta. Name brand is a lot more expensive.

[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

Where do they get cashews that cheap?

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They said Walmart is the source... so off I go!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Cashew-Halves-Pieces-27-oz/315393128?classType=REGULAR&athbdg=L1200&from=/search

Based on the nutrition label the container has 4,320 calories at about 10 dollars.

So 1 dollar for 400 calories, or .25 for 100.

But given they reference walmart and USDA it's very likely these are not accurate outside the US.

[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Very good chart thanks for sharing

[-] wrekone@lemmyf.uk 2 points 2 months ago

My banana diet starts tomorrow.

[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I bought walnut once in my life. To this day, I regret the waste of money. There are so common, I cannot understand how I manage not to have some foraged freely in the nature..

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Locally at least Costco precooked chicken nuggets are 6.99 a kg which is the cheapest meat they have I think

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

where would raspberries or kumquat fall on the chart?

[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Raspberries? Oof I can't imagine great. But let's see.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Frozen-Whole-Red-Raspberries-12-oz/10543665?classType=REGULAR&from=/search

$4 for 200 calories. So raspberries would be off the top at 2 dollars for 100 calories (just looking at nutrition label). Fresh has even worse.

Kumquat I can't find a solid price on, but given each fruit has about 13 calories, I can't imagine it's a good source of them.

So yeah those are for sure flavor and vitamin eats and not calorie eats XD

[-] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Where do the rich rank on this?

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