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For me, Salvador Dali's work transformed from fascinating into kitsch when I learned he was a fascist.
Yeah but let's keep things in perspective. You don't have to delete Puff Daddy from your iPod, but you probably don't want to play him at your political rally.
I guess it depends for me. I love Roald Dahl, both his children's and his adult's work, even though he was a virulent antisemite (even the museum dedicated to him comes right out and says it). My dad, who was super-sensitive to that stuff, was okay reading his books to me when I was a kid despite that.
And I think the reason why is that he didn't let his beliefs leak into his work. I can't look back at any of his works that I have read and see any hatred of Jews.
On the other hand, there's someone like Woody Allen (Jewish connection not intended here) who you can see his awful shit in his movies. He's literally dating a high school student in his film Manhattan. And he treats her like shit and basically gets away with it too.
I can't watch Woody Allen movies anymore.
I agree that sometimes it's possible to separate the art from the artist. Sometimes that's pretty easy to do, but sometimes it's pretty ambiguous.
A grey area for me is the philosopher Martin Heidegger. He was a Nazi, and this definitely comes through in some of his philosophical work. Some of it doesn't seem to be informed by his Naziism, but I'm still pretty averse to reading it, because how do we separate the person from the Naziism? If I were a philosopher, my own political viewpoints would inevitably permeate everything I wrote, even if the texts weren't directly political. Perhaps I'd be better able to discern the line in Heidegger's work if I were a philosopher.
I always worry about missing bad vibes in text, because especially as an adult, I have discovered many areas in which I didn't even notice problematic things in media (antisemitism being one such area). I cringe when looking over Harry Potter as an adult, for example, and not just because of its author's awfulness since the books were published.
I think we need to allow people the benefit of hindsight, as well as the space to have complicated feelings. Like, sometimes there might be some news that's comes out about a person, which causes us to look over their work with a more critical or more mature eye. Without this space, people are much more likely to dig their heels in and refuse to change.
I think it's hard to appreciate something once I start disrespecting the author. My favourite director, Kusturica, ended up a Putin lackey and since then I've lost the motivation to see his works.
Not that I would condemn anyone else for watching, just that his movies died a bit for me.
Death of the author means you separate the art from the artist, and sometimes it also means you wish they were dead
Also false attributing what makes a good artist. Many of these pigs think the bullshit they pull is being rewarded by the popularity and thus contributing to their ability to make art.
I has this happen with the fifth element. I found out Luc Besson is a pedophile who has gotten multiple young girls pregnant. Including a 15 year old he started seeing when she was 13, who he left when she turned 21. The movie is so different knowing about him and his views & it really changes how i watch the movie. Its no longer a fun feel good movie for me. Especially because two of his young wives star in the film.
Including a 15 year old he started seeing when she was 13, who he left when she turned 21.
Some more detail: That's Maïwenn, born 17. April 1976. They married at the end of 1992, when she was 16 and a half, and in January 1993 at 16 and 9 months of age she gave birth to their daughter Shanna Besson. They then divorced in 1997, apparently because Luc Besson left her for Milla Jovovich who was the lead actress of his film The Fifth Element.
Various articles claim that they met when she was 12 and started dating when she was 15, but none cite the source for their original meeting time or beginning of the relationship, neither do the French or German Wikipedia articles. The English one links to this paywalled article so I can't verify.
Can I ask where you saw the claim that they started seeing each other when she was 13?
Brings a whole new meaning to "time not important, only life important"
The Professional too, makes for some serious ick factor.
That explains the sexy newborn plot device. Gross
And if something like turns out to have been made by a bad person, I retroactively secretly hated it all along.
It's sort of frustrating to me when someone says they liked something and immediately someone just says "blah person involved is an abuser." It feels so smug.
Disclaimer.
This post is not about Harry Potter/JK.
this post was submitted on 02 Oct 2024
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