Add "The Penguin" to that list.
The "nobody asked for this" argument is dehydrated rock-hard stupid. Perhaps "arrogant" is the better description. The arguer thinks so highly of himself and his fandom that he requires consultation.
Heard that non-stop about Solo, one of my all-time favorite characters. I didn't ask for the film but I'm damned glad they made it. (Why I liked it is another post.)
"Nobody asked how Solo got his name! Or his blaster!"
STFU. I thought both origins fit nicely in the movie's flow and didn't break any established lore. Both items were amusing asides, not major plot points.
I thought Solo was a good film other than bits that tried to make it about Han Solo, then, not so much. Not "nobody asked for this" more that with cool enigmatic characters, or mysterious back stories, mystical forces, unless it is all meticulously planned out before hand it rarely lived up to expectations. Add to that the calibre of Harrison Ford, the iconic performance of the role, it wasn't ever going to live up to that. For me, Solo is like most of the prequels/sequels/spin offs. They haven't added anything of enough value to the mysteries or back stories, they haven't shown great motivations or origins for the characters I loved in the first place. With exceptions. Doesn't mean they shouldn't keep playing with the toys, but they should be more careful with them.
It is only natural:
a project that fans have asked for for years doesn't have a single creative direction, but already planted ideas in so many different heads of fans. Expectations are various, everyone wants to see his/her version realized, while the studio struggles to understand what those versions are.
A project no one has asked for does not have any expectations yet. It has a single creative vision by the creator and can't really disappoint.
I’m with you except for those last 3 words. It can’t disappoint preexisting expectations that don’t exist, but it can certainly still disappoint!
I'm so burnt out on both universes that it is only the raving reviews of a few entries that will bring me back now. Prior to ~2019 I would literally see every entry in both.
The need for new ideas is paramount.
I really liked when a marvel projects were just uncommon enough that each movie was an event, in the avengers 1 days. I’d like to see a return to that and something similar with Star Wars. These big companies and CEO’s have no concept of over—saturation and franchise-fatigue
"Nobody asked for this" is such a stupid argument. As if people are only allowed to do something if they were asked for it
THEREFORE, I'M HERE BY ASKING ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING
There, the next time somebody asks "Who asked for this?" send them here and tell them I did
a creative actually had a really good idea they pitched to the executives
They is delusional. Do they think Disney is some indie company and not a corporate machine?
Everything they do is for profit, not giving fans what they want. It just so happens that the two sometimes line up and we get a good movie out of it.
For years, Disney's intent was to saturate the market with Marvel. They didn't want a single month to go by without SOME Marvel movie or TV show. Them not thinking fans would get fatigued like they did is evidence enough that fans were never their priority.
This is exactly the issue. A smaller studio has to distinguish itself with quality work. Disney is a media empire and pretty much a monopoly. They don't need to distinguish themselves from shit. They own dozens, maybe hundreds of networks, services, and production studios across the world and all they need to do is produce the most basic watchable content on enough of a scale to keep viewers subscribed. The high quality shows and movies they produce are the exception, not the rule.
It's time to break up every media empire.
Agreed. It's mostly corporate slop but sometimes they find an absolutely killer recipe so credit where credit's due.
Yeah I think it’s more like this:
Bigger projects with big characters that cost more mean that the execs want to “make sure they get their money’s worth” so they’re sticking their noses in it.
Then for projects with the B-list characters on a smaller budget they don’t do that.
Apparently it's an unpopular opinion, but I liked Thor 4. Could they have done more with the source material and premise? Definitely. But "what might have been" doesn't take away from the movie that actually got made, IMO. And that movie was better than pretty much any of the contemporary MCU movies post End Game (maybe even going back to Black Panther, or at least Ragnorak)
Huh. When I say nobody asked for this, it's Thor 4 or the latest in a long line of sequels. And I would argue that "Agatha All Along" and its ilk are not "creatives coming up with new ideas" but executives trying to cash in on a popular character because they recognize the flagship characters are declining in popularity.
I think that's what people mean when they say that. Nobody asked for another sequel to whatever, we want new and interesting stories.
It seems like the OP in the screenshot is sort of strawmanning?
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