105

submitted 1 month ago by PugJesus@lemmy.world to c/historyillustrations@lemmy.world

10 comments fedilink hide all child comments

top 10 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

I wonder if the procedures and processes for getting these set up were done in a similar manner to how it is done in modern times.

Request for proposals, contracting with architectural and engineering firms for a Design-Build project, funding allocation, project management, and project execution.

It'd be fascinating to see the parallels with how the ancient Romans did these with how we do them now.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

At least partially! Requests for proposals (and often accepting lowest bidder contracts on less prestigious projects - some things never change), contracts with private entities for public undertakings (societas publicanorum), and corporations (often using a curious form of limited liability in which a slave was technically and legally owner of the firm) all existed by the Late Republic/Early Empire!

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

But on the other side of the Contracting table, a lot of water pipes were privately owned in Rome. And stealing water was very popular, if a pipe happened to pass by your house, it saved you a trip to a public source.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Or an expensive connection - farmers were always illegally tapping the pipes for agricultural purposes XD

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

You'd be surprised how far back the method of paperwork goes. I got a book of translated ancient Egyptian texts, and most of it is tax paperwork.

[-] criitz@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago

You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

[-] SwordandArt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Lead pipes?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Lead pipes. They were used back then for the same reason they were used in the 19th century - lead is easy to mould into a nice cylindrical form. The water causes mineral buildup on the inside of the pipes which stops a lot of the lead leaching, so it's not as horrific as it sounds, but it's still far less safe than anything that would pass inspection today, lol.

[-] kopasz7@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I have a new (?) theory for the slow downfall of the roman empire.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's actually been tossed around since the 80s! In the modern day, it's thought by most (though not all - the theory is still valid, just less widespread) that it wasn't a major contributor - the lead in the water was about 10x what we would consider acceptable today - by contrast, some 19th century pipes had concentrations hundreds of times past the maximum legal limit!

But lead was a problem for another reason - they boiled down their sweeteners in lead vessels because the lead made it taste sweeter. THIS particular concoction would have thousands of times past the maximum legal limit of lead in food - itself already higher than legal limits for water!

You get a lot of variance in Roman corpses tested for lead that way - some of the folks are just at background levels of lead, not too different from today - while some of the more lead-heavy bodies are rockin' 1950s "We burn leaded gasoline into the air" levels of lead. One expects they were the ones fond of their sweetener...

this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024

105 points (99.1% liked)

Illustrations of history

757 readers

114 users here now

This magazine is for sharing artwork of historical events, places, personages, etc. Scale models and the like also welcome!

Generally speaking, actual photos of a historical item should go to !historyartifacts@lemmy.world

Photos of ruins should go to !historyruins@lemmy.world

Photos of the past should go to !HistoryPorn@lemmy.world

founded 6 months ago

MODERATORS

PugJesus@lemmy.world